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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#101: Jan 13th 2015 at 8:12:26 AM

Cancer treatments are being defunded.

13th January 2015 – Health charities have reacted with dismay following an announcement that 25 cancer treatments are to have their funding withdrawn by the NHS in England. The decision was made during a review of the Cancer Drugs Fund.

NHS England says difficult decisions had to be made after it emerged that the fund, set up to give patients access to medications not routinely available on the NHS, is over budget.

Some medications will be removed from the list altogether while others will be restricted to certain cancers.

NHS England says the changes, due to come into effect on the 12th March, will allow some new drugs to join the list. It has also stressed that patients currently receiving the treatments will be allowed to continue having them.

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#102: Jan 13th 2015 at 8:48:45 AM

Well, that sucks. I wonder what the criteria for picking which treatments to restrict were. I'm guessing they would've cut starting with the most expensive, though an alternative would be to cut from the least effective.

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Gabrael from My musings Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#103: Jan 13th 2015 at 8:54:42 AM

It's also very confusing when they say that people receiving treatments won't be cut off, but that some treatments are completely off the books.

That could mean either they will refuse to accept new patients with that treatment or that existing patients with that treatment will be relocated to another procedure or medication instead of the banned ones. Regardless, this is going to be very troubling until it is more clear.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#104: Oct 30th 2017 at 3:36:10 PM

A little while back a routine test found blood in my mom's urine. Today we found out that it was nothing, but for a month there she was worried she might have cancer. While looking online to see how close we were to a cure, I found this article about nanomachines that can kill cancer cells. I've said for years that the the way we'd eventually cure cancer would be with nanomachines. Now this is still a long way from being a cancer cure, but this is the most promising news in the fight against cancer in probably the last 50 years.

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#105: Oct 30th 2017 at 3:44:25 PM

Not sure how nanomachines could be more reliable at detecting cancer cells than regular immune responses.

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ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#106: Oct 30th 2017 at 3:50:19 PM

[up]Because they are programmable-think of it in computer terms. The normal immune response is read-only, following a specific set of instructions without deviation. These are closer to read-and-write, able to be programmed with different information, allowing them to specifically target traits on cell membranes.

Come to think of it, this technology is unsettling in its closeness to FOXDIE from Metal Gear Solid.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#107: Oct 30th 2017 at 11:29:31 PM

So in other words they have the same issue as the immune response. Even less effective than the immune response, since that uses some additional signals.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#108: Oct 31st 2017 at 10:38:09 AM

Just because the human immune system has a hard time identifying cancer cells, that doesn't mean that it's impossible to selectively attack cancer cells. Modified viruses have had pretty good success targeting and killing cancer cells. The nanomachines are already capable of latching on to only cancer cells, (in lab conditions anyway, like I said it's not a cure yet).

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#109: Oct 31st 2017 at 11:12:14 AM

Ja, in vivo such treatments almost invariably attack some healthy cells as well, typically fast proliferating ones.

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#110: Nov 1st 2017 at 5:30:41 PM

How much water does the "big chemo withholding cancer cure to maximize profits" urban legend hold?

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#111: Nov 1st 2017 at 6:46:01 PM

None, it’s a stupid conspiracy theory the same as every other one about big companies somehow being able to control all the science that scientists at a variety of global institutes of learning discover.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#112: Nov 1st 2017 at 7:04:49 PM

[up][up] Lobbying directed at the FDA has definitely stalled things on the regulatory side of things for things that aren't patented by one of the major pharmaceutical companies, and the research priorities of big pharma definitely is part of the reason it took us until the 2000s or so to start making significant process in cancer treatment, but there's no grand conspiracy, just typical short sightedness and predatory business practices.

edited 1st Nov '17 7:05:51 PM by CaptainCapsase

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