Arrow. Green Arrow tv show.

I only meant Arrow. Joe is an awesome father. Having trouble dealing with your estranged son or sometimes being overprotective of your danger-seeking daughter aren't enough to stop him from being a great dad.

In Arrow, the one truly good biological father is Diggle. Quentin is alright as of now, but it wasn't always the case. Floyd Lawton was a pretty shitty dad, as was Robert Queen. Malcolm Merlyn is a complete dick, it is now abundantly clear, and so is Felicity's dad. Maseo was alright I suppose but he went the deep end when his son died. Hell, Damian Darhk is among the most decent fathers in the show as far as we know. That's saying something.

Beeteedubya, prediction time: people mentioned that the future sequence with the grave featured Felicity without a ring - it is now obvious that she will learn about Ollie's son and the marriage will go sideways. I am not looking for all the drama that will surround it, I really hope it doesn't poison the Vixen episode I am really looking for now..

edited 11th Feb '16 12:29:51 PM by Julep

Floyd Lawton was kind of good until he started suffering from PTSD. When his PTSD was under control he acted like a good father IIRC.

So I think it'll be William's mother who'll die.

Quentin's a pretty good dad. Not the best, but flashbacks imply he was a lot better until the "death" of Sara.

If William is the one who dies, Samantha will probably die too. If not-well its weird she's not there after the funeral with Oliver at their child's grave.

It seems like the Lance household was fairly stable and healthy until the shipwreck. A family tragedy like that can have a bad effect without any one person being at fault, Dinah admitted that the divorce was just as much because of her problems as it was Quentin's. Afterwards it is more along the lines of Parents as People, despite going through all that shit and having their ups and downs the Lance's are still relatively close and on good terms with each other.

Diggle's been a good father mostly because he hasn't had enough time to mess up all that badly. His association with Team Arrow, ARGUS and the Suicide Squad doesn't make him entirely untouchable, having such a dangerous lifestyle has bought that danger into the home on a few occasions.

I am also going to speculate on Williams mother, largely because that means Oliver will have the new challenge of raising a son when it is all over.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBokFAmBswk/

This is how the episode was meant to end, but they had to do reshoots and have that fight between Oliver and Malcolm instead.

John Barrowman, you never cease to amaze, but seeing Katrina Law with a non-serious look, while in Arrow costume, that was delightful.

I wonder what version of the song that is, sounds funkier.

edited 11th Feb '16 6:34:45 PM by Soble

That was adorablle.

I just realized I don't have it in me to make any more hand puns.

edited 11th Feb '16 8:31:28 PM by Cross

x infinity!

Yeah. I like that ending much more than what we got, and that last ending was good up until the Malcolm decided to be an asshole again part.

That was even better than when she last danced with Ra's al-Ghul.

Nyssa taught Sara some things, and Sara taught Nyssa some things.

Katrina Law shaking her booty can never be a bad thing

edited 12th Feb '16 11:10:43 AM by tricksterson

Episode 4.18 is titled "Eleven-Fifty-Nine"

edited 12th Feb '16 3:51:35 PM by Halberdier17

John Barrowman on the Dark Archer digital comic series .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFVquaBnPc

I'm kind of hoping hoping Flash Forward Felicity is referring to Malcolm when she demands Oliver kill him. It would be so damn cathartic, even if it means losing John Barrowman.

It took me a few rewatches before I realized that Barrowman had Stumpy on during the dance.

No Thea, Oliver lying NEVER ENDS WELL

But if Oliver is the Green Arrow and someone finds out about it they will target William.

We know that is happening already but that is because Malcolm turned his back on Ollie.

It still would be a good idea to keep it secret. We have the benefit of knowing what the main characters don't know.

Edit* not relevant to that topic but does anyone else think Reiter is after one of the Outsiders Clan totems?

edited 17th Feb '16 5:46:14 PM by Halberdier17

Oh right, new episode of Arrow. Yet, I can't bring myself to watch tonight.

That was funny when Felicity was trying to hack the fire alarms. Thea just pulls the alarm and says she learned it in high school.

So Curtis is working on a cure for Felicity and it is his wedding gift to Oliver and Felicity.

Darhk has William.

I wonder if the tech is based on that stuff Ray used to cure his own paralysis back in Season 3?

Whatever the case, Felicity's paralysis didn't last long.

And now Vixen is finally coming into play. I didn't totally catch what they were saying about her, but it sounds like they are looking for some kind of outsider advantage. Someone Darhk doesn't know who might catch him off guard.

So Lyla is in charge of Argus now, that's disappointing.

I guess that works for the sake of keeping things simple and contained.