Arrow. Green Arrow tv show.

That's actually a thing? Holy art movement, Batman...

While I've only heard of the Quiz, I always thought this was a pretty cool power. there must be hundreds of abilities we've never seen or never brought up before. I can only imagine how powerful she is.

Yep. It was started by an ex-member of The Brotherhood of Evil (The Brain's group), who underwent a totally untested and highly dangerous experiment to gain superpowers and ended up a demented shadow man who could drain the sanity from people around him - Mr. Nobody. He decided to get together a group of similarly irrational people together and make his own group, which he partially named after The Brotherhood of Evil (which was defunct at that point).

Like I said, while their antics and personalities were extremely off the wall and random (not to mention that they dressed like... well, just look at them◊), the first Brotherhood of Dada actually wasn't all that extreme power wise (The Quiz aside) and its individual members could for the most part probably be done without getting too ridiculous at all on The Flash, though again I'd much prefer Mr. Nobody and co. were saved for the Doom Patrol.

On the other hand, the second Brotherhood was pretty much entirely composed of beings with unbelievable powers even by metahuman standards and contained characters like Agent ! - who has to be seen to be believed◊ (he's the fellow with the exclamation point on his head. His power is basically being an Unusually Uninteresting Sight) and Number None, who is... difficult to explain. And might not actually exist. So they're probably not going to be showing up on television any time soon.

edited 29th Nov '14 9:20:37 PM by KnownUnknown

So what is the weirdest part of Morrison's Doom Patrol run? Is it Mallah and the Brain confessing their love to one another?

From that same issue: The Brain. Cliff Steele. BRAIN TO BRAIN COMBAT!◊ It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

Seriously though, one of Morrissons Doom Patrol most major characteristics (besides things being as absurd as possible) was the consistent Cosmic Horror elements of the beings they fought - even in stuff that's supposedly human-made. But instead of making mythologies around those horrors or lining up hints or clues to their true existence, Morrisson tended to only explain what the hell the main characters were dealing with just enough so that they knew how not to die outright and could just power through the crazy. Most explanations answered nothing and just led to further questions, or things didn't even have complex origins at all and just kind of were. The heroes typically just drifted from insane situation to insane situation and moved on because - well - just another day for the Doom Patrol.

So like, Danny the Street is definitely weird but fairly benign, and the real WTF from that storyline comes from The Men from N.O.W.H.E.R.E. Who get even more disturbed the more we learn about them. That's my vote. That or Red Jack.

Ugh... the first part of the Arrow/Flash crossover was just... the pacing... it just left me dumbfounded.

I'm afraid for the second part if they wrote it like that.

Among the many, many foreshadows at the end of the first part, (presumably) Sandra Hawke finally made a present-day appearance. Little Connor is alive, too.

What was wrong with the pacing? Seemed just fine to me.

They shoved a bunch of things into one episode. It all felt very shoehorned.

Really? I thought it worked and that everything came together nicely.

edited 3rd Dec '14 11:01:20 AM by TheLastEveryMan

It would have been so much better if they focused on the fight for the first episode, then on the Flash and Arrow working to get the bad guy in the next episode. But they had to put in foreshadow after foreshadow at the end for whatever reason.

Arrow Cave!

Holy shit boomerangs beat arrows! That's wonderful!

Interesting point about metahumans vs. normal killers.

Yeah. It kinda shows the difference between The Flash and Arrow as well.

Edit: Guys like Digger and Leonard show that even if Barry is something completely new, they can still adapt. Him planting those bombs was pretty slick, and afterwards, he only had to deal with the known quantity.

And it ends with a Lighthearted Rematch.

Anyway, Barry gets to see a bit of darkness in his life just in time for a dark story arc of his own.

edited 3rd Dec '14 6:03:40 PM by HandsomeRob

Cool outro logo.

The fight work for Captain Boomerang was pretty awesome. Though I question the logic of Harkness walking around in public with his coat wide open so the whole world can see his shiny boomerang collection :/

Probably just think he's a weird Boomerang collector, or something equally ridiculous.

After all, who would expect an assassin to walk around in public with his weapons?

I wonder if Barry asking Ollie "is that guy dead?" or something similar is going to be a running thing whenever they meet up these days.

I have to say, I really like the Flash Soundtrack...dunno its just, that feeling of "ooooh!" whenever Barry does something awesome that's helped along very nicely by the music.

Noticed it especially when that Leitmotif played during the first fight in ARGUS

Also, since my hopes for Superman Vs Batman are...not that high, I do love that Barry and Ollie get their usual relationship transplanted.

And to paraphrase a Marvel Meme: "Arrow wants to be Hardcore but The Flash won't let him." whenever Ollie tries to be melodramatic only for Barry to shortblock it.

edited 4th Dec '14 2:42:03 AM by 3of4

I don't think I would have guessed they were weapons without prior knowledge.

This just went up: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57672

Have we gotten pictures of Matthew Nable in costume as R'as? He seems pretty badass. Also looking forward to seeing the A.T.O.M suit in the future.

Catching up with the third season, though I missed my opportunity to see the first couple episodes on the website. Started with the episodes where Thea comes back home from Merlyn's care.

I'm on The Magician right now, in which Laurel shows she has even more in common with Detective Lance than previous.

So, the OMAC Project was given a pretty conspicuous nod with Palmer. Do you guys think it's the supersoldier version or the A.I. Is a Crapshoot version? The latter is probably more likely, but it'd be an interesting twist if it were the former. In any case, I'm guessing an appearance by Buddy Blank is imminent.

edited 10th Dec '14 3:13:25 PM by KnownUnknown

So the major plot twist in this episode is Oliver being Sara's killer.

edited 10th Dec '14 5:11:14 PM by VeryMelon

Nooot quite... Seems Thea could be the killer.