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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#3: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:05:07 PM

So, there's not much of a story to tell, here? If the retraction is already out there?

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#4: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:09:41 PM

No single player from EA for "Gen4" consoles. (Gen4 = Xbox Infinity, PS 4.)

So, there's not much of a story to tell, here? If the retraction is already out there?

And you believe it? Actions speak much louder than words. Name a purely single player game from EA lately.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:10:43 PM by JAF1970

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Theboywonder from Your house Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
#5: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:10:03 PM

That could just mean they're trying to cover their tracks so people don't rage at them.

I could see them pulling this shit.

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Court Dragon
#6: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:10:46 PM

That's just using the same quote that was re-clarified in the retraction.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#7: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:13:12 PM

[up] Which means that there might be single player on "gen 4" consoles, and the Article [up][up][up] linked to is dumb.

God I don't know why I still read these threads.

At least I'm not posting in this thread sober. Then I'd just get mad.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:13:44 PM by unnoun

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#8: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:13:35 PM

Question: was it necessary to make Sim City online-only?

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#9: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:13:35 PM

This wouldn't be so bad, so long as multiplayer was optional and couldn't be forced on people not interested in it. But assuming EA will do anything pleasing to the masses is just believing the devil's lies right?

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#10: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:14:00 PM

[up][up] I restate my question.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#11: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:15:45 PM

[up][up][up] ...I don't think there is a Sim City that is online only. Except the Facebook one. But that seems obvious.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:15:56 PM by unnoun

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Court Dragon
#12: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:15:49 PM

So, are you saying that that he was lying when he said that you can play Sim City single-player? I haven't played a Sim game in a decade, so I wouldn't know.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#13: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:17:48 PM

Can you play without an internet connection?

In addition, you do know that multiplayer requires a major chunk of development man-hours? Basically, you're sacrificing work on single player to shoehorn in multiplayer.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:22:55 PM by JAF1970

Jonah Falcon
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#14: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:22:30 PM

[up] That's more of a DRM, not a multiplayer thing. Steam and Valve games like Portal and Half Life need an internet connection.

Not saying it's a good thing, but you're kinda comparing apples and oranges.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:23:01 PM by unnoun

Vox Since: Dec, 2010
#15: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:23:00 PM

You need to have a connected social experience where you're part of a large community.

Like hell I do. I'm this close to giving up video games altogether, and this is not convincing me otherwise.

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#16: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:25:19 PM

You can't kill an inanimate object or concept.

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JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#17: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:26:52 PM

Excuse me, why do you think EA put in the "every game must have a multiplayer option" in the first place?

To combat piracy.

And you still haven't addressed the fact that multiplayer development eats away at the game like no other. Let's look at Mass Effect 3.

I know for a fact from an EA employee that the multiplayer component was the reason ME 3 was released incomplete, and EA didn't want to wait til November to release it, which Bio Ware told them it would take til.

So, please, don't tell me multplayer doesn't cause problems.

Jonah Falcon
Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#18: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:29:53 PM

wasnt the multiplayer for me3 developed by a different team altogether?

metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#19: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:30:34 PM

[up] Eh, ME 3 did not suffer particularly from incompleteness. It suffered from "the head writer is insane". That was not EA's fault.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:31:06 PM

I know for a fact from an EA employee that the multiplayer component was the reason ME 3 was released incomplete, and EA didn't want to wait til November to release it, which Bio Ware told them it would take til.

I apologize if your word is worth less than nothing to me, and don't trust any information that you may provide. But you have said things on this forum that you "knew for a fact" from an "*insert company here* employee" and all of those things you said turned out, on later examination, to be untrue, baseless, badly sourced and sensationalist.

I mean no disrespect of course. But first, I don't care about ME 3, and second, if you want me to believe something, back it up.

edited 5th Sep '12 4:31:54 PM by unnoun

JAF1970 Jonah Falcon from New York Since: Jan, 2001
Jonah Falcon
#21: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:31:49 PM

I know this from first hand sources.

Let me put it to you in another direction: why is Wasteland 2 a Kickstarter project, despite originally being an EA title?

Jonah Falcon
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#22: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:34:15 PM

[up]

I know this from first hand sources.

...What first hand sources? Can you provide a quote? Evidence? Charts and graphs with little pictures? Anything that would actually in any way prove that you aren't just talking out your ass?

Please? Pretty please? With sugar on top?

edited 5th Sep '12 4:34:55 PM by unnoun

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#23: Sep 5th 2012 at 4:59:17 PM

Well that's a case of mismanagement for Mass Effect. Metroid Prime 2, Perfect Dark, WWF No Mercy, the latter 2 Smash Bros, Golden Sun, Most Need For Speeds, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, Bomberman and many of EA's NBA-NFL-FIFA titles had good single player modes despite the existence of multiplayer.

Granted, forced online service does seem like a legit reason not to buy but it says games that are mainly single player haven't been announced as online 24-7. EA does have a history of sucking, but they also made all those title people drool over like Madden, Mass Effect and Dead Space. I people who care enough about their games would be more hopeful.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#24: Sep 5th 2012 at 5:07:12 PM

[up][up][up] Since when was Wasteland 2 an EA project? What's more, even if it were, what does this prove besides "EA isn't interested in rebooting a 20+ year old franchise"?

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#25: Sep 5th 2012 at 6:21:17 PM

... Wasteland 2 was never an EA project. Brian Fargo said himself that every big-name publisher he went to rejected him.

So either EA, indeed, rejected him, or he never went to them at all.

As for ME 3, any faults with that game are purely on Bio Ware's shoulders. The multiplayer was developed entirely by a seperate team, and had no effect on single player resources.

Finally: Fuck EA.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

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