"That is all nice and good, but can we get citations for each of these claims? If they are correct, we'll make the edits."
Does that mean I can start removing uncited claims from all over TV Tropes
? This is exactly the sort of attitude that puts me off of TV Tropes
for months at a time. I want to improve an article, I provide citations, then the edits get reverted back to the original because "TV Tropes
is not Wikipedia and citations don't matter."
So, here I go again with the citation dance! I hope this actually sticks this time, because every other time the "made guys" reverted my edits even though mine had citations and theirs didn't.
1.1 "Galaxy High" being a "low end" TV series: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/22908/galaxy-high-school-vol-1/
"Mighty Orbots" being an "awful mess", according to the lead writer http://joeguide.com/interviews/buzzdixon_ci.shtml
Regardless of how much people love these shows, the animation itself and the content is deeply "80s Saturday Morning". No one's allowed to get hurt, weak sitcom gags, uninspired characters (notable exception are the main character designs for Galaxy High)
1.2 "Gummi Bears" and "Duck Tales", wholly produced and directed by Disney, with full Disney creative control; rote animation was outsourced to two or three foreign studios, one of them being TMS, hardly a "collaboration". I would think a simple look at the credits would do: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092345/fullcredits
- animated in Japan and Australia among other places, I hope that doesn't make it a co-production with the Australian studio.
2 A simple look at the credits for Animaniacs and Tiny Toons would do. Tiny Toons is famous for having a lot (four or five) different studios doing the animation for them. "The animation" isn't the storyboards or the character design or any of the creative parts; it's the inbetweens. Not really "alongside TMS", and if you credit them you really ought to credit the four other animation studios working on inbetweening, Kennedy Cartoons being the most infamous. Maybe the janitor who picked up a cell from the floor once, he might deserve co-producer credit too. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098929/fullcredits
The root of the error in 1 and 2 is that TMS is listed as "animation production", and someone unfamiliar with the term would immediately jump to the conclusion that this description is similar to "producer". Unfortunately it's "production" as in "production line", not like "associated producer".
3 The article contradicts itself with the Mighty Mouse paragraph; just change the wording a bit to fix it.
And here we go. I can't wait to get told that my references are bad and that TV Tropes
is not Wikipedia and that a Troper's unreferenced claim is better than a non-Troper's referenced claim and that my attitude sucks and that the article was better before.
The Renaissance Age of Animation glamorizes TMS. Many of its related articles, like Duck Tales and Mighty Orbots, glamorize TMS too. Someone with hard fan-lust for TMS added all this information to TV Tropes
and instead of asking them to prove that they're right, TV Tropes
is asking other people to prove that they were wrong.
That, in a nutshell, is why I can't edit TV Tropes
. There's a double standard when it comes to reliability. Anything a Troper says is right until proven wrong, anything anybody else says is wrong until proven right.
edited 9th Sep '12 6:33:37 AM by naoi