Indiana Jones

First he stars in probably the biggest Space Opera film since Star Wars (not counting Star Trek), and now he may be playing Indy. Harrison Ford should sue for identity fraud or something.

He's also starring in Jurassic World, just to complete the Lucas/Spielberg connection.

The first GOTG scene past the opening logo was basically Indiana Jones in space. Though with a lot more dancing.

Unless it's a full reboot going back to the 20s and 30s, hopefully a Chris Pratt Indy would be a more realistic portrayal of an archeologist. Not saying it has to be perfect, but at least on the same level as Daniel Jackson.

I doubt it. Nobody wants to see an archaeologist who spends ages at the library and only goes out on the field once a year to dig through some ancient compost heap. We want to see unspeakable horrors unleashed from tombs of evil.

I think doing a 'realistic portrayal' of an archeologist would defeat the point of Indiana Jones.

Note that the portrayal I said they should be more like regularly fights aliens. They can pull of having Pratt!Indy be a better example of an archeologist without doing away with any of the action and adventure. That thinking the alternative to classic Indy is sitting in a library and only digging once a year (also a bit inaccurate) is part of the reason why I'd like to see a more "realistic" portrayal.

edited 28th Jan '15 12:20:59 PM by stingerbrg

Technology aside, I'm still pretty sure Indiana Jones could probably beat Daniel Jackson pretty handily in a fistfight if the two came to blow for some reason.

He may fight aliens on a regular basis, but I'm not recalling any moments offhand where Dr. Jackson actually gets in any major fistfights.

Really, if you're looking for something more 'realistic', I think you're better off just having a new franchise instead that builds around that idea rather than trying to modify Indiana Jones - the classical adventure archeologist - to fit it.

edited 28th Jan '15 12:22:48 PM by TheSpaceJawa

Stick a fork in the Indy franchise. It's done. Any reboot now would be pointless beyond description. The critical reaction alone would kill its chances. There is already an Indiana Jones - that's Harrison Ford, and he is far too old to do the role justice. Besides, the amount of films in the sector that a reboot would cover already coming out from Warner and Disney in the foreseeable future make the chances of it making big enough dollars miniscule.

They had a chance with the last film to jumpstart a series starring Shia La Beouf's Indiana Jones Junior character but that film wasn't anywhere near as successful as Lucas was hoping for, either critically or commercially.

eh. Young Indiana Jones wasn't either.

I refuse to believe La Bouf was ever meant to become the new star of the franchise; the fourth film ends with Indi whipping the hat away from Mutt and giving a 'Don't kid yourself, kid' look.

I'm not sure where the desire for a reboot comes from; word was everyone was keen (if unagreed on certain plot points) for the Indi 5 script; and I would like to further see the fifties pulp further explored. Rebooting the franchise allows you to go back to 30s pulp, sure, but I'm not sure how that can be anything more than a retread of Indi 1 through 3. The only difference between the films are the mucguffin, the supporting cast, and the set pieces.

Then what do I know; I love Kingdom and Temple.

Chris Pratt is perfect for the role; he could feasibly play a young Harrison Ford.

I'm also surprised because I was under the impression Disney had given up it's quest for a secondary swashbuckling franchise to co-exist with Pirates of the Caribbean after every year for four years giving Prince Of Persia, The Three Musketeers, John Carter, and The Lone Ranger.

Yeah, Indy Senior did do that at the end of the film, that's true. But that doesn't undercut the whole two hours or so of running time of the film showing Shia being shilled as the next Indy. Why else would the film have made such a big deal out of Mutt being:

A/ Indy's kid.

B/ Marion freaking Ravenwood's kid

and finally

C/ His real name being Indiana Jones, Junior? Because that's exactly what they did.

Crystal Skull was nothing more than a thinly disguised stealth introduction of the next generation of Indy, with some grade A fanservice - Marion and Old Indy kicking ass and taking names, with Cate Blanchett thrown in to boot. It couldn't have been more obvious that was what the makers were trying to do if Shia had walked round the set with a placard with the words "I'm the next Indiana Jones. Come see my next film." written on it in letters of fire. With the Blue Angels display team flying top cover and skywriting "Yeah, we're serious!"

And when I said "series" in my last post, I meant "film series", as opposed to telly "series". Sorry if there was any dubiety on that.

I can't help but feel like you and I have completely different interpretations about what the central themes of Kingdom are.

Kingdom, more than any of the other films (Because it's character progression over four films), tell us all that Doctor Henry Jones IS Indiana. Mutt exists to prove that, not refute it, because Mutt allows Indi to be both his Indiana Jones adventurer personality and his day to day lecturer personality at the same time; something he's struggled to do for four films.

(Well, it's more Marion which allows it; Indi literally marries his two sides of his life)

Yeah, that marriage bit. In any other of those kind of films what would that scene be?

The End. And they lived happily ever after. Cue next generation xerox and the adventure continues. Indiana Jones Senior's story is finished at that point. Indiana Jones Junior's has only just begun. I will go to the mattresses and take the cannoli (leaving the gun obvs.) over that until six folk I probably won't like very much carry me on their shoulders when I'm wearing a heavy wooden overcoat. And yeah, there were at least two references to "The Godfather" in that last sentence.

If Mutt wasn't meant to be the next Indy, the film makers would not have included him in the film. They would have came up with another excuse to get Marion Ravenwood and Indiana Jones back together, mainly because a lot of the fans, me included, wondered why the hell she never showed up in Last Crusade for even a cameo.

But it's good to have a different view point being expressed by someone. Healthy debate and all that.

I think the movie makes abundantly clear that Indy is and will always be the Indiana Jones when, in the final scene, Mutt reaches for his hat but Indy grabs it and puts on his own head, smirking.

eh.

I know that it's been Jossed but like. I still thoroughly believe that Indiana Jones is immortal. drinking from the Holy Grail gave him a really, really long life.

...i like that canon. YOU CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME REALITY

The Young Indiana Jones adventures series showed indi as an aged old man in the 90s.

I could see Chris Pratt doing the role some justice (considering the Han Solo-esque Peter Quill) but even so, Indiana Jones seems pointless to reboot. No kid these days cares about elaborate Nazi occultism or Hindu death goddesses or whatever else the original films had. That stuff (especially the Nazi stuff) was relevant to a post-WWII generation but it isn't today. Even Pratt's supposed casting sounds more like a grab at his current Loveable Rogue adventurer archetype that he's in right now than a true interest in recapturing what made the movies so interesting and memorable.

I'd like to see a modern adventure film, in the same vein as the National Treasure movies but with all the action and tongue-in-cheek cheesiness of Indiana Jones rather than a reboot. Between this, Jurassic Park, Transformers and Ninja Turtles everything seems to be trying to revive the franchises of the 80s and 90s rather than let the modern age develop its own identity. Heck, even Star Wars and Star Trek for that matter! Can we not have a cool and memorable and future-nostalgic original franchise please?

Can we not have a cool and memorable and future-nostalgic original franchise please?

Like Pacific Rim?

If they did do an Indiana Jones movie set in the 2010s, that Indy could easily be Mutt's son or grandson depending on when Mutt married and had kids.

Also, they could have had the Indiana name skip a generation in order to avert the narmness of Indiana Jones the 4th or 5th.

Damn, almost forgot Mutt was the 3rd Indiana.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:54:59 PM by tclittle

Maybe they could go back and talk about Indiana's grandfathers adventures in the Old West or something.