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Deadlock Clock: Aug 12th 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
Redgrave Since: Jun, 2012
#1: Jun 24th 2012 at 1:38:03 PM

The article is full of 'inversions', enough that it could probably be split into two different articles. American Kirby Is Hardcore should be for Japanese box art converted for the west, not for Western box art converted for Japan. See, Americans Hate Tingle vs Germans Love David Hasselhoff.

Edit: I sort of phrased this wrong. I wasn't really talking about the countries, more the fact that the trope is about something being 'made more tough' for a different audience, but there are almost an equal number of examples on the page of something being made less tough, and then called an inversion. It just seems to me that it should be a different trope.

edited 24th Jun '12 2:00:30 PM by Redgrave

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#2: Jun 24th 2012 at 1:49:25 PM

I'm not sure that's correct - the difference between Americans Hate Tingle and Germans Love David Hasselhoff isn't about what specific countries they occur in. This trope is essentially "box art is changed to reflect local cultural sensibilities" - I see no reason to split it based by country. If anything, all the stuff about 'inversions' only exists because the title makes people think it's USA-specific.

It could use a slightly less whiny tone, though.

edited 24th Jun '12 1:49:39 PM by nrjxll

Redgrave Since: Jun, 2012
#3: Jun 24th 2012 at 1:51:42 PM

But I think my original point still stands. Dealing with countries wasn't exactly the right way to put it, but the trope is essentially "Box art was made more hardcore for a certain audience." But there are tons of examples on that page of "Box art was made less hardcore for a certain audience."

edited 24th Jun '12 2:54:37 PM by Redgrave

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#4: Jun 24th 2012 at 6:12:31 PM

It is "more or less". A dark character changed to a bright character is straight, not an inversion. "Box art was made different for a certain audience."

Could divide it more finely, I guess, but why?

edited 26th Jun '12 5:16:17 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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Stratadrake Dragon Writer Since: Oct, 2009
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#5: Jun 26th 2012 at 9:08:22 AM

If the trope is broadly "changed to suit regional target audience", then the inversion of American Kirby Is Hardcore is American Kirby Is Hardcore because the definition is bidirectional — it's actually a straight example, not an inversion.

If the definition is solely "more hardcore in region A than in B", then "less hardcore in B than A" is merely inverted phrasing, not an inverted example (because A and B are commutative).

However, I propose that if a lot of people are using the Inverted tag specifically to say "more hardcore in A than in America", then that is misuse on the grounds that while the "inverted" tag is correct, the definition they're inverting is not.

edited 26th Jun '12 9:10:22 AM by Stratadrake

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#6: Aug 9th 2012 at 11:56:04 AM

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ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Aug 13th 2012 at 8:06:43 AM

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