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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Jun 20th 2012 at 7:58:16 AM

This trope has been renamed due to rampant sinkholing, but there are over 4000 wicks.

To qualify for this trope, a terrible situation must have some final perfect push over the edge.

What needs to be done:

  • Every wikilink has to be changed to From Bad to Worse, which is the new name.
  • Every link which is just a sinkhole and does not meet the criteria for the trope must be deleted.
  • If you find a pothole in a locked page, ask for someone to remove it here. If the page has the word "Archive", then ignore it.

The links can be found here. To find the It Got Worse potholes on any given page, press Ctrl + F and search for gotworse while editing. Every little bit helps.

edited 29th Nov '12 7:25:23 AM by lu127

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#2: Jun 20th 2012 at 9:35:36 AM

What do we do with no-context examples? I'd take an axe to them myself, but I'd want at least someone agreeing with that first. Actually, personally I'd only keep and rewrite the examples that are made clear to fit the trope. Otherwise just cut. There's just too much to do a decent amount of research to be sure otherwise.

Also, isn't it closer to 6000 wicks, or am I looking at the wrong number?

edited 20th Jun '12 9:36:09 AM by Feather7603

The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3: Jun 20th 2012 at 9:36:34 AM

Most undetailed examples are sinkholes. Nuke 'em. For a Zero Context Example, use the discussion page.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Jun 20th 2012 at 10:07:25 AM

[up][up] I meant more like 'a lot' of wicks than the exact number.

Feather7603 Devil's Advocate from Yggdrasil Since: Dec, 2011
#5: Jun 20th 2012 at 10:08:32 AM

What's the difference between an undetailed example and a Zero Context Example? And would it be enough to put a comment about it in the edit reason?

[up]Just checking.

edited 20th Jun '12 10:09:11 AM by Feather7603

The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.
animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
ccoa Ravenous Sophovore from the Sleeping Giant Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jul 25th 2012 at 12:25:42 PM

To answer Feather's question, a Zero Context Example is an example with little or no context, such as just the name of the character it applies to. An undetailed example has more information than that, but not enough to tell if the example fits the trope.

Both should be pulled to discussion.

edited 25th Jul '12 12:25:51 PM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#8: Jul 28th 2012 at 9:14:24 AM

6000 wicks? Let's get this show on the road. Starting with the As.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#9: Aug 30th 2012 at 1:55:13 AM

Wow, this gained 50 wicks since the last post. Need help here.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Aug 30th 2012 at 8:12:26 AM

^We really need a way to prevent people from adding wicks to redirected pages that don't need them.

[down]Edited accordingly.

edited 30th Aug '12 10:04:40 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#11: Aug 30th 2012 at 9:46:46 AM

[up] That would be a bad idea. A large number of redirects are for functional purposes (such as weird pluralizations, or the opposite gender for certain non-gender-specific gender-named tropes, etc.).

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Sep 1st 2012 at 6:43:17 PM

Or the English name for Japanese works.

FireWalk from Pointytown Since: Feb, 2010
#13: Sep 2nd 2012 at 2:41:16 PM

While most redirects or disambiguations aren't a problem, the question is whether we can get some markup that tells an editor that the page they've linked to is not the trope page that the name sounds like.

Anyway, I'm trying to hit It Got Worse links for now, in alphabetical order, starting with the tropes for visibility. Is there a reason we don't have a page for post rename wick shifting? They fall off the forum fairly quickly.

Don't ask me, I just fix wicks.
Doryna Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#14: Sep 22nd 2012 at 9:24:53 PM

Bumping this because it needs visibility and could use a lot more help.

Doryna Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#15: Nov 25th 2012 at 11:02:37 PM

Now at 4790 wicks, and it keeps gaining back a few most days. Would a site-wide announcement help, since this is one of the most abused for Pot Holing?

crazyrabbits Crazyrabbits from Mississauga, ON, Canada Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Crazyrabbits
#16: Nov 26th 2012 at 12:59:41 PM

I'd support a site announcement and redlinking the original phrase. You need a dedicated team to cut down those errant wicks, though.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#17: Nov 28th 2012 at 11:41:24 AM

Well, let's see how it goes.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Specialist290 Since: Jan, 2001
#18: Nov 28th 2012 at 11:55:01 AM

I'll take a shot at helping out.

EDIT: Got all the A's up through Ape Escape so far.

Also, a possible suggestion: Would making "It Got Worse" and "It Gets Worse" display as redlinks be a good idea?

edited 28th Nov '12 12:49:39 PM by Specialist290

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#19: Nov 28th 2012 at 12:57:35 PM

I may be jumping the gun a bit, but I removed the double redirect from It Gets Worse to It Got Worse to From Bad to Worse; now both of the first two redirect to From Bad to Worse. At time of writing, there are 4220 It Got Worse wicks and 485 It Gets Worse ricks.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Nov 28th 2012 at 12:58:10 PM

^^It would, if it could happen.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
tracer from Silicon Valley, CA Since: May, 2009
#21: Nov 28th 2012 at 4:50:04 PM

I know I'll be in the minority if I say this, but ... I actually LIKE sinkholing. I think it adds a little bit of cute flavor to the article.

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#22: Nov 28th 2012 at 4:52:41 PM

It doesn't really matter whether you like it - this is site policy. And I do think there's good reasons for it, but that's probably a subject for another thread.

Specialist290 Since: Jan, 2001
#23: Nov 28th 2012 at 5:17:20 PM

[up][up] Potholing is fine when done in a way that relates to the trope being potholed. The problem with It Got Worse is that it's being used in contexts that have nothing to do with the trope itself, which is about situations that are already bad getting worse.

EDIT: Someone listened to me! grin

edited 28th Nov '12 5:18:00 PM by Specialist290

lrrose Since: Jul, 2009
#24: Nov 28th 2012 at 8:39:49 PM

With the exception of a couple of locked pages (one of which is an Archive page and thus is probably not an issue), the A's have been taken care of.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25: Nov 28th 2012 at 9:23:17 PM

Ooooh, thanks, Eddie. grin

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer

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