Things you thought Walt Disney could've done differently

This is more of a What Could Have Been Thread. Hopefully this won't be too inflammatory.

Even if Walt wasn't an animator or a particularly good artist, he still had a strong vision to lead in terms of story. Generally, this turned out successes, and eventual classics. However, sometimes this way of running had its flaws. Unique styles could often be clumped under this umbrella called "Disney". Or not utilized at all.

I treat all living things equally. That is to say, I eat all living things

Scratch that, he should've found some way to implement Beyond the Laughing Sky into the movie.

edited 25th May '12 9:03:28 PM by Enzeru

But then we wouldn't have 'The Second Star to the Right'!

I wish he would have gone with Maurice Rapf's ideas for Cinderella, where instead of meekly submitting to everything her stepfamily threw at her, she would stand up for her right to attend the ball, and that's why the Fairy Godmother finally came to her. It would have been a much more satisfying story message than the "Just be troubled enough about your troubles, and someone will come to take you away from it all" that we get now.

edited 26th May '12 6:47:23 AM by Karalora

Stuff what I do.

I'm sure we'd have gotten that if the movie had been made today.

edited 26th May '12 6:58:25 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

While I've come to enjoy Disney's version of Jungle Book(it's a pretty fun film), I still wish we could've seen what Bill Peet did with the story.

I treat all living things equally. That is to say, I eat all living things

• Giving Snow White personality.
• Giving the Prince personality.
• Inserting background characters into a world populated only by 3 humans.
• Easing down on the woodland critters.
• Not changing Pinocchio from a jerk to a wide-eyed 100%-sympathetic protagonist.
• Not paying the mafia to scare the animators' union members.

My angry rant blog!

What? Where did you hear the last one?

Grr, I think I know what's coming....

edited 27th May '12 7:40:36 AM by blueflame724

I treat all living things equally. That is to say, I eat all living things

I liked wide-eyed Pinoc.

Can't we just be thankful for the things they never change?

Like say the Lifecycle of the Disney Princess

• Loses the protection of her father's guidance.
• Goes through a scary period wherein she's forced to make decisions on her own.
• Finally finds a new safe harbor under new management and once again has a man to put her in her place.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."

• Finished the Ride of the Valkyries Fantasia segment.
• Finished Destino in his lifetime
• Release Circe de Lune with Fantasia, it was completed at the time
• Follow the original plans for March of the Bumblebee.
• Make the planned Fantasia sequel in his lifetime.

I'm having to learn to pay the price

Well, they could have stopped shoving music numbers in everything they release, put some more real tragedy in their films (as in stop resurrecting most good guys that die!), and make some more and better live action movies that don't make me want to burn the TV after watching due to inconsistent plots, plot holes and flat, unlikeable characters.

Please don't feed the trolls!

I think you would like Bridge To Terabithia.

edited 21st Jun '12 7:27:15 AM by Enzeru

I'm intrigued. My thanks, I'll look for it as soon as my exams are over.

Please don't feed the trolls!

To be fair, there are some characters who have died in Disney movies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFmGNqji4u0

Thank you, Enzeru, for reminding me of the night I heard my mom and her boyfriend having sexy time while that one tragic moment happened.

Signatures are for lamers.

What do people have against musicals?

Stuff what I do.

Would've liked if they focused more on Prince Phillip in Sleeping Beauty.

Nothing much, really. But putting several musical numbers into every movie, most of which aren't even good songs, is kind of tedious and gets old after a while.

And I know sometimes they have good guys die for real, but they usually aren't main characters and the Back from the Dead trope is still used rather often, just like the dead mom or missing parents overall. Just seems to me that it cheapens death somehow. I mean they had Simba's dad Mufasa die for real and kids could take it, so why not? Though they might have put that death in because they copied a lot of the story from Kimba The White Lion. Or if you don't want a main character to die, why not just have him horribly injured and show a few restless weeks of recovery and hope that he/she'll be okay, while heavily implying that they might die. Just to make it a bit more plausible and to raise tension. And then have them survive.

Please don't feed the trolls!

Really? I thought Sleeping Beauty was unique for giving the prince more to do than the princess, as in Snow White and Cinderella, the prince just pops into the film a couple of times to be the love interest that we never really get to know. The Little Mermaid struck a nice balance, developing Prince Eric about as much as Phillip, but it was definitely still Ariel's story.

I'm grateful for the Prince in Cinderella—he's part of what made A Twist in Time work so well.

In fact, Snow White's prince was the only crappy one.

edited 21st Jun '12 3:00:02 PM by Enzeru

Well, not just the similarities to Kimba, but Hamlet as well. All of the influences that the Lion King took required Simba's father to bite the big one.

edited 21st Jun '12 3:01:51 PM by Zeromaeus

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I guess I can understand the musical part(it sort of annoyed me as a kid). Sometimes, you just want it to be dialogue, not some elaborate musical number(which admittedly, is done much more often in the Renaissace). Still, I've really come to appreciate the musicals.

I treat all living things equally. That is to say, I eat all living things

You have every right to. In all honesty, I've only ever appreciated one musical in my life and it's the only one I'd happily sit to watch all over again. Otherwise, I'm not a fan of musicals, but many people are, so I'm sure some of them enjoy that Disney has so many musical numbers.

Please don't feed the trolls!

To be honest, I was actually a bit surprised that people wanted Disney to go back to that format when i heard first the announcement of PATF(that and they wanted a fairy tale).

edited 22nd Jun '12 8:16:36 PM by blueflame724

I treat all living things equally. That is to say, I eat all living things

I think it's just that Disney's musical movie tend to be better than the ones that aren't musicals, even if one doesn't like the songs themselves. There's a grammar error in there somewhere.