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BlackDove Since: Dec, 2009
#26: May 4th 2012 at 10:04:22 PM

I read, my bad for misstating it, I was trying to use that as a baseline for how explicit something must be, or lacking in the "plot" to be cut. Nonetheless, the books are needlessly showy, as is the anime, the light novels, the video games don't really have a place there, and the "other" materials are pretty much irrelevant (character dress up software, mobile phone game, etc).

BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#27: May 4th 2012 at 10:09:25 PM

However, it is not porn, nor is it especially pandering to pedophiles. At least, I haven't heard a case that sells it as such. Not my decision, of course.

EnragedFilia Since: Oct, 2010
#28: May 4th 2012 at 10:12:45 PM

As I see it, the important distinction between Eiken and Queens Blade is that the latter has a lot more "non-fanservice" substance, easily enough to exceed the Excuse Plot threshold.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#29: May 4th 2012 at 10:12:58 PM

We're not cutting for fanservice or even nudity by itself. If we determine that the work isn't primarily porn, or pedo-pandering, we have no justification for cutting it.

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BlackDove Since: Dec, 2009
#30: May 4th 2012 at 10:15:22 PM

So overall, that is the baseline, still. I see. Well, not my decision, so I am backing out.

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#31: May 5th 2012 at 6:15:40 AM

So the likely decision is "clean up and leave open"?

Eiken didn't get cut because of excessive fanservice. It got cut because it's as close to Porn Without Plot as is possible without having any actual sex.
I thought it was cut simply because of sixth-grader Komoe Harumachi having extreme Gag Boobs and having intensive fanservice scenes — including a few fully-nude outdoor bath scenes — in several chapters.

edited 5th May '12 6:16:12 AM by MarqFJA

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#32: May 5th 2012 at 6:21:46 AM

[up] I can't speak for the other panel members, but that was exactly my reason for cutting it.

Moving on from more Eiken chat, I am pretty solid on voting for this to be a simple clean up. I'll only say lock if the other members of the panel deem it necessary.

edited 5th May '12 6:22:48 AM by Meeble

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Shaoken Since: Jan, 2001
#33: May 5th 2012 at 5:51:54 PM

Cleaning would probably be the best choice, since it has been aired censored and still made some sort of sense.

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#34: May 6th 2012 at 4:40:05 AM

I see this got three angels, so I put it on the cleanup pile. Anything else?

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#35: May 6th 2012 at 4:43:10 AM

Nah, we're pretty much done, so you can go ahead and give this thread a lock.

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