Girls

I'm really enjoying this comedy on HBO. Sort of like the anti-sex in the city. It's really well observed, and strangely dramatic for a comedy. Strong black humour too. Anyone else watching it?

I'm watching it, so far mainly because I'm not sure what to make of it.

I don't find it particularly funny, the characters are irritating and the style somewhat off-putting. And yet it's also strangely fascinating. It definitely has a unique feel to it, which is probably enough to keep me interested for a while. At least till the novelty wears off.

It's pushing my black humour buttons pretty much perfectly, and taught me to fall in love again with Robyn.

My only problem is that all the men look exactly the same right now.

I think all the women look the same. Anyway, most of what I've heard about it has been criticism for its lack of minorities, so that's why I won't be watching.

I find it strange that this show, of everything, got carded for that. Game Of Thrones and Once Upon A Time have maybe one black character between them in their first ten episodes. This show's had less than an hour point five.

If anything, that was just people pointing out that for a show claiming to be an accurate reading of NYC, there weren't enough black people, which led to the outcry.

It's problematic, but it's something that derives from privilege. Like most other TV. No reason to boycott in an of itself, right?

The show is also explicitly about a group of privileged white girls. It seems somewhat realistic that their social circle would be white.

It does feel like the New York they inhabit is unrealistically monochromatic, though.

Well, that was great. So much great music in this show, and I feel like I'm finally coming to understand some of the characters who aren't Hannah or Marnie. The reveal that Adam thinks about Hannah pretty much exactly what we've been led to think about him was great.

And finally a party episode that had something to say about actual parties.

Double posting, because this is clearly going to be how the thread rolls.

Todd, from the av onion just posted a fantastic comment in the discussion section that followed his review for the most recent episode, which really, I feel, addresses a lot of the issues that have been floating around in regards to the commentary on the show. You know, the weird anger that a lot of people are directing towards it that's been driving a lot of people away from a really fascinating, if at time off-putting, show that's really fucking funny, moving, and often emotionally true to life.

So, comment (which is in reply to a post that argued that Girls wasn't a good show partially because Lena Dunham, writer and lead actress, wasn't particularly attractive in the poster's eyes.)

Wow.

I guess its really easy to hate these characters considering all the dumb mistakes they make, but I for one absolutely love all of them. They are so stupidly human in a way i don't often see on TV. I see them making a lot of the same mistakes me and my friends used to make when were becoming adults and I just want to give them a great big hug. They are so adorable. This show is incredibly human and Lena Dunham is fearless. So much love for Girls.

Oh turns out is allready a thread for this show. D'oh

Well would TV tropes recommend this show?

edited 17th Aug '12 5:14:56 PM by joeyjojo

It's a very polarising show, I wasn't that impressed with it but plenty of people are.

I'd just jump right in and see if it was my kind of show if I were you.

@Shadow Scythe's other post in that other thread:

To me, it's a satire, and sits in that sweet spot between funny and dramatic without really being either. (Like Nineteen Eighty-Four)

I watched it. It was kind of meh to me. To me the characters didn't have much to distinguish from each other, except that British girl. It wasn't incredibly bad or as excellent as critics are claiming. Also, I was kind of creeped out by how close the girls who were roommates were to each other. I've never talked to my best friend while taking a bath, heck I wouldn't do that to my own sister. It's just odd.

Second episode's better.

Probably my favourite.

Also, the characters are quite distinguished from each other, even at this early stage.

Oh My God Ben Mendelsohn's going to be on this. He's basically made for this show.

I really like it. Reminds me of my twenties...in good ways and BAD ways.

I haven't see it but in response to how the cast is too white for being in NYC, it depends where in New York. I understand some buroughs and some neighborhoods are very racial different from each other. Reality Is Unrealistic.

NO NO NO DO NOT DO THAT TO YOUR HEAD AARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH

Is what I said during this week's episode. Wonder what my neighbours think.

Anyone reads today's onion article?

Next Episode Of 'Girls' To Feature Lena Dunham Shitting Herself During Gyno Exam While Eating A Burrito

Season 2's finally gave me a sense of "The premise of this entire show is entirely validated, and the two seasons and many hours I spent watching this were not wasted."

I feel angry that my problems with Lena Dunham's pro-New York bias which alienates me about a lot of US programming (the myth that ONLY IN NY WILL YOU EVER MAKE IT IN THE ARTS *shoot me*) has little to do with the actual, brutal and sincere message of this series. I will eagerly await Season 3. I may even buy Season 1 on Blu Ray, is how wrong my perceptions of this show were.

I liked that all the characters were basically at exactly the same place they were at the end of this season as they were at this start of the first.

Except Hannah's parents now hate her, and are starting to come across as a little shitty.

^^What is the actual message of this series anyway? It's Slice of Life scenes are definitely brutal and sincere. But I'm having a hard time comprehending what the writers want me to take away from it.

^Hannah's parents are shitty. It's easy to feel sorry for them seeing how unlikeable and self-absorbed their daughter is. But they rised the little brat. Bad kids don't come from good parents.

That's not remotely true.

You think so? Hannah is clearly the product of her upper middle class HBO's Sex And The City 'Jewish American Princess' upbringing. A decent upbringing would of knocked that shit right out of her.

edited 19th Mar '13 2:42:58 AM by joeyjojo

I find it very difficult to believe that Hannah's a bad person, nor do I believe that a parent could be held entirely responsible for the raising of a child. Serious mitigating factors, like mental illness, or third party interference can change how a child grows.