Realism of Sex as Exercise.

• How believable would it be for sex to used as exercise?
• How effective would it be?
• Any drawbacks?

Well, it gets your heart rate up, but depending on HOW you're doing it you're not working muscles in the same way as traditional exercise.

Googling "sex as exercise" turns up a lot of results, were I you I'd inspect some of the links and decide for yourself if they're credible or not .

"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."

Point.

Was hoping more for Brutal Honesty and Troper Tales.

Its an activity and can be considered "exercise" but at the same time I doubt the Marines are going to use Sex in their Fitness Program anytime soon.

edited 27th Apr '12 5:53:57 AM by Natasel

I'm a big advocate of "holistic" health. Look that up while you're at it; a lot of it is about the idea of sex being a key component of physical and mental hygiene.

Short answer: no, it's not an effective method burning calories, really.

Nous restons ici.

Hold on now. This has caught my interest; how much sex would you need to have to lose weight? Let's try to work this out.

The most common figure I've seen is that thirty minutes of sex burns about 85 calories; no word on whether this factors in basal metabolic rate, so I'll do the math twice for both possibilities.

Keeping you body alive consumes a certain amount of calories; ~80 calories per hour is the average of the different figures I've found for the typical sized adult male. A healthy calorie intake is ~2000 calories a day for the same, and you need to burn more calories than you consume to lose weight. Thus, for a man eating a healthy diet to have enough have enough sex to lose weight, he'd need to have sex for either ~12.5 or ~8 hours a day, depending on whether the original calories burned value did or didn't account for basal metabolic rate.

Of course, if you're capable of having sex for eight-twelve hours a day, you're probably already in decent shape. Final verdict: Sex is not an effective exercise; merely an enjoyable one.

Another TL:DR post.

But it would be more fun and a better way to burn calories than walking every day. More active and more enjoyable.

While the breath's in his mouth, he must bear without fail, / In the Name of the Empress, the Overland Mail.

The expression "getting laid is the best exercise there is" doesn't stem from effectiveness but rather how enjoyable it is.

Also, there are other benefits; scientists have done studies and people who have regular sex in a stable relationship both live longer and have fewer health concerns than those who don't, on average.

The moral...find someone you love and FUCK the SHIT out of them. You'll live longer.

edited 14th May '12 11:19:36 PM by drunkscriblerian

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~

That's true.

Although, an idea occurs to me. The "sex is inadequate as an exercise routine" verdict hinges on the fact that we're talking about normal, everyday sex. There may be potential for using it as the foundation of an effective fitness program.

Static isometrics and dynamic tension exercises are already options for a person without equipment; the addition of a partner only broadens the range of possibilities. For example, from the cowgirl position the girl can push herself off the guy's chest while he provides resistance by pulling her back towards him, working her pecs and triceps, and his biceps and shoulders; if, from the same position, he attempts to push her away while she pulls him, each builds the opposite muscles; although he'd probably have to limit himself to the use of one arm so as not to throw her off. Straight up pressing and curling your partner might also be an option. Depending on their size, obviously.

I don't see this "erotisthenics" program (erotikos+stenos) being as effective as traditional resistance training, but it definitely has potential; sub-optimal =/= worthless. The biggest logistical problem I'm stumbling on is the fact that with two people using each other's strength as resistance, a male is going to start with more proportional strength, and possibly develop strength faster than a female. Of course, if both partners are the same gender, we bypass this.

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm devoting this much thought to the matter because I'm a fitness buff, not because I'm a pervert. I am a pervert, of course, but I'd display a similar amount of enthusiasm if I was trying to figure out a way to get a full body workout from any other source.

edited 15th May '12 12:41:58 AM by SuperHeroineAddict

Another TL:DR post.

Okay, if we're talking about sex designed to be a workout, then we're getting somewhere. If this occurred in a society where sexual mores were much more relaxed than we have now, I could see it being possibly super-effective.

However, the main reason that sex works as a form of exercise is that while you're having it you really don't care about the calories you are burning...you're focusing too much on what you're doing to really give a shit. If you had to start focusing on other things, you might lose interest in the sex part, or simply forget about the workout part in the heat of the moment.

Also, exercise requires you to concentrate on what you're doing so you don't hurt yourself. I've pulled muscles and even dislocated joints during exceptionally vigorous sexual encounters, mostly because I wasn't paying attention to proper lifting technique and the like.

So, while sexual exercise could work well, there'd be some problems to overcome.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~

Didn't think anyone would post again. Glad to see not all my posts are boring.

Anyway, nice to see someone with some experience in exercise posting. Human Kinetics?

Part of the problem as was said, is that the typical Sex had by the Average Joe is.....Average.

Sort of like jogging, almost anyone can do it, but most of us don't run marathons (or at least I don't)

So what sort of sex/exercise would say, a Delta Force Commando be engaging in?

Probably perform at a higher level than an Average Joe.

Then there's the question of how enjoyable it would be.

A nice jog can be a pleasant diversion. A marathon is usual described as gruelling.

edited 14th May '12 11:31:22 PM by Natasel

/facepalms/ Oh yeah; people aren't just sentient machines, with absolute control over their sympathetic nervous systems. How do I always forget that?

The question of maintaining focus didn't even occur to me. Aren't practitioners of tantric sex supposed to be able to fuck for days on end without orgasming? Maybe whatever technique they use to stay at that plateau could be useful in sexercise?

Well, we're pushing the limits of my knowledge here, but from what I've read about SEAL and Spetsnaz training, they don't do any special exercises that no one else does; they just work out more often, with more intensity. So applying the same logic, if a normal erotisthenics program has the man do calf raises while he and the woman have suspended congress*

, I guess the sex commando would be doing alternating one legged calf raises while having suspended congress*

this is seriously my new favorite phrase

with a larger built woman. Then when she can't take anymore, he'd put her down and pick up a second woman, and start doing cunnilingus deltoid presses. Because, you know... supersets.

This is a valid concern. High intensity training is a bit unpleasant; you basically kick your own ass to make sure that no one else can. Maintaining arousal and achieving orgasm under those conditions would be quite a feat. Plus you've got you're partners comfort to worry about. You know you can push out five more reps, but if they're starting to chafe, your workouts over.

Edit: Hey, um, topic creator? This has only just now occurred to me, but... why are we talking about this? I got so wrapped up in the practically of the concept that I forgot to wonder why you'd want to know. Now that those damn trees aren't blocking my view of the forest, whay kind of kooky universe are you building, anyway?

edited 15th May '12 12:38:50 AM by SuperHeroineAddict

Another TL:DR post.

A really, really weird universe.

Basically an extension of the concept: "Make Love, Not War."

In war, sometimes opposing groups would decide things by Champion instead of pitched battle since its cheaper and most will agree to the terms of a contest if it saves many lives in the process.

Since bloodsport is in the wane and the arena of politics, alliances and favor currying in royal courts usually has a sexual element as part of the intruige (as well, as betrayal, backstabbing, poisoning and all that but more on that later), it seems logical that opposing groups would send forth their "best" as well.

And to be the best, you got to practice.

Hence exercise.

....

[[facepalm]] This sounded much less stupid in my head.

edited 15th May '12 5:45:46 AM by Natasel

Also wondering if I could belivably use Sex as a form of Training from Hell or plausible reason for how someone Took A Level In Bad Ass.

edited 15th May '12 6:38:07 AM by Natasel

As a plausible reason? No. As a ridiculous or comedic reason? Possibly.

Well, I suppose I could use the old comedy stand by of Prison Rape and say that it became endemic due to budget cuts for gym equipment and over crowding so the inmates resort to what they had on hand.

Prison Bitches!

Not Funny or Crosses the Line Twice?

Not funny.

Rape as Comedy very rarely works for me. And will often make me instantly hate your work. I have very strong feelings on this matter.

Making light of someone's intense trauma is ... very tenuous ground. VERY tenuous.

The last time I laughed at a rape joke was the first Trickster episode of Supernatural, and that had a jerkass victim, crossed the line like four times, was outrageously absurd, and featured a slow dancing alien. And the rape itself wasn't the funny part. It was the aforementioned slow dancing alien. I can't remember laughing at one before that. Or since.

Be VERY careful about using rape for comedy.

edited 15th May '12 8:19:15 AM by Cthulboohoo

Fine.

How about the end result though?

There are certain situations where you need different kinds of Badasses and Sex/Exercise thing may come in play.

In Fiction, you've got John Rambo, with Machinegun in hand style.

Then there's the James Bond, with Martini in hand style.

Rambo doesn't seem to get laid a lot in his adventures and is about as eloquent as a punch drunk boxer from the Bronx, Bond on the other hand seems to be able to charm the panties out of nearly every Femme Fatal that crosses his path.

I'm thinking these two men have different morning workouts as well as approaches too.

IRL, we've got KGB, Chinese, Israeli, etc agents using the Honey Pot technique so its not too hard of a stretch right?

Bond beds ladies because he's a baddass smooth talker.

He's not a badass smooth talker because he beds ladies.

The only thing lots of bedding ladies could make you better at is bedding ladies. Being raped lots wouldn't even make you better at that. It would just make you traumatized.

Yeah, but on the other hand, what would the Rapists Cardio Chart look like?

Bet the Vikings incorporated some of it into their workout. Figuratively (since workouts may not have been invented yet).

o_0

This conversation certainly took an odd turn while I was away.

Another TL:DR post.

Welcome to the internet.

Where did you expect it to go? A discussion on the merits of Petunias vs Roses?

Not as such. I just didn't expect to find myself considering what fitness regime would best suit the aspiring rapist.

Another TL:DR post.

What's precedent ever done for us?