RPG and Game Maker?

Does anyone know if either(or any other program that let's you design games) is any worth to try out? And if they are, why?

RPG Maker is limited to 2D RPGs, while Game Maker is a very versatile tool. I used Game Maker when I was twelve, never went beyond the really basic stuff (a topdown 2D maze among others), but it was pretty fun.

Game Maker really can be used for anything you can imagine, at least in 2D - I haven't played a good 3D game that was made in Game Maker yet.

edited 21st Apr '12 4:05:00 PM by Litis

Game Maker can be used for 2D top-down third-person shooters and supports a leveling and upgrade system, so you could use it for that.

Most things beyond RPG Maker and Game Maker are either not worth mentioning or require at least some programming knowledge.

Eh... Gamemaker and RPG Maker don't require programming knowledge, but it really, really helps.

I used to have RPG maker for the PS 2. I constantly got irritated that no matter how much I tweaked the enemies and put effort into their attack percentages the enemies would never actually attack the player.

Eventually, I sold it, but I've always felt wistful that I could never do anything with it.

Honestly, I feel like games like that (as well as Sim or Tycoon games, but that's a different story) are better left to computers as apposed to consoles.

Reread my post.

edited 21st Apr '12 4:16:44 PM by burnpsy

What? My response makes sense to me. I don't think I'm misinterpreting anything... there isn't anything to misinterpret.

Then you need to learn basic reading comprehension.

Let's break my post into parts, shall we?

Meaning those two are excluded from the rest of my statement.

Self-explanatory.

As in, notable stuff that isn't Game Maker or RPG Maker require some programming skill.

And...this contradicts what Mukora said how?

The only one who mentioned stuff requiring programming knowledge is me. Mukora's post came right after mine and emphasized "require" as if I said they required them. Mukora also just implied with his/her response to me that it was indeed a reply to me.

As I just showed, my post did not say that RPG Maker or Game Maker required programming skill, but Mukora's emphasis implies that I did and that he/she's correcting me.

edited 21st Apr '12 5:23:27 PM by burnpsy

No, I'm pretty sure he was saying that while RPG Maker and Game Maker don't require programming knowledge, as in what you said, it's a good idea to learn some programming before trying to make a game with either of them anyway.

If that was indeed the case, my bad.

But if you actually bother to code with either program, you're better off with a more open one.

Inform 7 is a pretty useful tool for making text based adventure games.

I suppose it's programming, but the language they use isn't hard to learn. I suspect that it's easier for someone who has no programming experience, just because you type sentences (like "Table is a thing. Table is in Room A.") instead of writing, you know, code.

The RPG Maker programs, starting from XP (and including VX and VX Ace, which just came out recently) can be configured to make games other than RPGs, if you know how.

I prefer Multimedia Fusion 2. It's even easier to learn than Game Maker, the built in image editor has quite a few options, but it's not as difficult to learn as GIMP or Photoshop, and it can do a lot of stuff. I've seen pseudo-3D rail shooters like Star Fox 64, turn-based RP Gs, and platform games (including a Sonic The Hedgehog engine with physics very close to the original games) built with it.

What Beorc said, also:

edited 21st Apr '12 5:22:11 PM by Mukora

Meant to type his/her there, like with every other gendered pronoun in my posts.

edited 21st Apr '12 5:23:37 PM by burnpsy

I figured so.

But I rarely get my sex mistaken, so I figured I should take the chance.