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The sub-forum is used for discussions that adjudicate possible violations of The Content Policy. Threads here can be created by flagging a page through the sidebar "report" button and toggling "The page may violate the Content Policy".

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Edited by SeptimusHeap on Sep 10th 2022 at 11:50:32 AM

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#10451: Jun 23rd 2013 at 6:57:37 PM

And would lead to issues if a generically titled porn work shares it's name with a legitamate work. Some naive soul, for example that actually made a straight documentary about Caligula.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10452: Jun 23rd 2013 at 7:30:48 PM

[up][up] It would still close off their most obvious/easy option, though.

[up] Nobody said that you'd have to employ suggestions in their entirety without applying fixes to address issues with them.

EDIT: [down] Gah. Stupid accidental doubleposting.

edited 23rd Jun '13 7:32:53 PM by MarqFJA

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#10453: Jun 23rd 2013 at 7:32:04 PM


This post was thumped by the Eldritch Flyswatter of Horror

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#10454: Jun 23rd 2013 at 10:16:48 PM

I've Cutlisted and blanked VideoGame/RapeLay. Please report if someone tries to save it.

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#10455: Jun 24th 2013 at 6:47:12 AM

Hey guys, I think I found another possibly porn MUD: Flexible Survival.
Page talks about NSFW, passage from it's own wiki:

This game has an adult theme, both in violence and sexual content. In addition to consensual role play, you will at some point lose to an NPC and trigger a defeat message. Which is a typically a lengthy pre-generated paragraph of how the attacker sexually assaulted you. These can result in progammatic pregnancy if you have female parts. There are merits to help avoid this but eventually you will see this happen to you or a party member. Additionally some quests have sexual content in their text.

However, I'm not putting it into reports until I can check out the game myself and that'll be several hours away yet.

Edit: okay, after some wiki browsing it really looks like a multiplayer Corruption of Champtions

Daum, just look at that NPC list and all the sex. (link is safe, following from it is not)

edited 24th Jun '13 8:49:54 AM by Adannor

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10456: Jun 24th 2013 at 12:20:26 PM

I received back the message from the troper that restored Rape Lay. They didn't know of the Content Policy and say that now that they know, the game wouldn't pass the policy.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#10457: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:02:40 PM

One more reason why I advocate for implementing a mass-PM function, if only limited in usage to staff members (or heck, only accessible by Eddie himself), so that when a policy (or amendment) has been set in stone (or its wording, at least), we can just send a site-wide PM to inform every currently registered troper so that we can avoid "I didn't know!" incidents like this one. I mean, it's been what... almost a whole year since the Content Policy has been set down?

edited 24th Jun '13 3:03:13 PM by MarqFJA

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10458: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:06:07 PM

That would message a lot of uninterested people as well, and likely increase any fighting.

One thing that would be good were to lay off the vague edit reasons like "Not up for discussion" - the troper cited that as an issue.

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LargoQuagmire Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#10459: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:07:08 PM

[up][up] Anyone who joins AFTER the PM gets sent out wouldn't know about the Content Policy, though?

edited 24th Jun '13 3:07:28 PM by LargoQuagmire

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#10461: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:21:33 PM

[up][up] There was a separate suggestion elsewhere that entailed making it so that any new accounts automatically get a welcome PM that includes links to what we feel to be the most important/essential Administrivia pages, including Content Policy.

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CluLegacy Since: May, 2013
#10462: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:27:11 PM

I agree with the paedophilia prohibition, so i won't complain about the deletion of =Rape Lay=, but what if the NP Cs were all adults? Would it be acceptable?

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#10463: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:29:16 PM

[up]It'd probably come under our 'no porn' rule, right?

What's precedent ever done for us?
tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#10464: Jun 24th 2013 at 3:32:23 PM

Yep. This should be explained in no uncertain terms on the Content Policy page.

edited 24th Jun '13 3:32:48 PM by tdgoodrich1

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Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#10465: Jun 24th 2013 at 4:25:45 PM

There have been plenty works with a high sex content that were judged to be not porn. It really comes down to being a judgement call based on the individual work. Not knowing anything about it, I can't guess how the that game would be be classified if the "Pedopandering" rule were not applied.

NineThePuma Since: Feb, 2011
#10466: Jun 24th 2013 at 6:22:15 PM

Rape Lay, even if it did not have the 13 year old and thus fall afoul of the Pedopandering rule, is a game based around a storyline involving a molester turning into a rapist for the sole reason of getting revenge and going around raping an entire family. Having played the game (A friend thought it was hilarious and sent it to me) I can safely say it is a porn work with only the barest plotline.

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#10467: Jun 24th 2013 at 6:30:42 PM

Let's not talk about Rapelay any further, the damn title is enough to tell you what it's about.

edited 24th Jun '13 6:31:11 PM by Raidouthe21st

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shoboni Since: Oct, 2010
#10468: Jun 24th 2013 at 6:39:39 PM

And not everyone got the PM, I've been here for years and never got a PM about it to my knowledge.

InsanityPrelude Since: Aug, 2009
#10469: Jun 24th 2013 at 7:14:25 PM

That's because there wasn't one? We were talking hypotheticals. I think.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10470: Jun 25th 2013 at 4:35:23 AM

Discussion on messages on notifications goes into the policy topic, folks. Also, I took care of the tagging.

Also, Flexible Survival was flagged. Some links I've found:

  • http://blog.flexiblesurvival.com/p/play-flexible-survival.html
  • http://web.flexiblesurvival.com/

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Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#10471: Jun 25th 2013 at 4:37:08 AM

[up]*points up*

It's got some convoluted interface so yesterday I was mostly figuring stuff up. (I did get assaulted by two hundreds of "latex foxes" at once. The game spent a looong time dumping the copypasta'd paragraphs for each and every one of them on me. Although to be fair there IS an option to opt out of 'defeat messages'.)

edited 25th Jun '13 5:18:23 AM by Adannor

CluLegacy Since: May, 2013
#10472: Jun 25th 2013 at 5:25:26 AM

What about World Of Warcraft and Second Life? Both allow the player to have sex with other players. Explicit sex. Are they exempt for being mainstream? (Second Life isn't a game, but i made my point)

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10473: Jun 25th 2013 at 5:28:09 AM

A work must be primarily be composed of porn, not just some sex scenes, in order of it to be under consideration.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#10474: Jun 25th 2013 at 5:35:04 AM

You can cyber in any communicative medium, World Of Warcraft doesn't have anything more than that (probably could get you banned, even).

It is when the game has explicit sex quests and sexual scenes with NPC - that's when we're having a problem. Flexible Survival indubitably has them, the question is how much focus the game has on them.

edited 25th Jun '13 5:40:44 AM by Adannor

Raidouthe21st Cool Dude from Whacking trick-or-treating punks Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Cool Dude
#10475: Jun 25th 2013 at 6:19:27 AM

More info found here, here, and here.

Far as I can tell, the sexual content is somewhat integral to the gameplay, so probably over the line of acceptability.

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