The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

Lucky Dog 1: ... Yeah, I'm gonna go vomit now. Egad...!◊ (NSFW!)

I'm not able to view any of the pictures you posted yet (gotta wait until I get home tomorrow), so I can't really comment at this point. (In the meantime, take deep breaths and count to ten.) Now, how bad are we talking about in terms of content violation?

edited 22nd Jun '12 6:31:18 AM by Pyrite

That image is pretty busy; I can't really tell what is going on there.

edited 22nd Jun '12 6:36:12 AM by SeptimusHeap

Shima said it's mostly plot with sex.

Uh...

...I think that's...erm...an act of male-on-male sodomy...at knife-point...in an alleyway.

...Or something. Too many action lines, bleugh.

I'm actually more wondering where the hell those dudes' feet are supposed to be, the angle is really messed up.

Personally, I think linking to singular images isn't really that good a way to represent a work, buuuuuuuuut whadda I know.

edited 22nd Jun '12 6:43:19 AM by Raidouthe21st

Looks that way. O.o

@Komodin,

Well, it is not an image that gives me warm fuzzy feelings either, but I fail at seeing how it is relevant. In the proper thread we had already established it to be not porn, as it focus on story. And there is no children in that image.

Yep, sometimes there's rape in stories. Doesn't make them porn.

BTW Jungle De Ikou? Harmless fanservice anime. bog standard.

Grr... fine...

Sorry... Jungle De Ikou has some funny reviews Here's a serious one It's 13 +

@P5: A (blank) troper's page is flagged. Can one of you remove it?

Re: Nana To Kaoru

Preliminary Report:

• Demographic: Seinen Disclaimer
  English Wikipedia's veracity with regard to demographics has been disputed
  Other Manga in Same Magazine
  Yuria 100 Shiki, Berserk, Futari Ecchi
• Manga currently unlicensed in US.

Update:

Chapter 1: Very fanservicey, with fetish gear and perverted imagine spots, but no porn or pedopandering.

Update the second: Chapter 2 is more of the same. Looks like typical straight-up unadulterated fanservice, but not any nudity.

Thanks, Raidou. Noted.

edited 22nd Jun '12 7:57:14 AM by tdgoodrich1

Nana to Kaoru...oh yes, I remember reading this, solely because I was bored...and from what I can remember...

Well, it's definitely not pedo-pandering, given that all the characters are in their equivalent of high-school.

But is it pornographic?

...Well...it's got BDSM...but that obviously isn't a qualifier for porn. Can't recall any bare breasts/genitals...no sex has actually ever been performed to my recollection...

I do remember a helluva lot of attention to certain aspects, like trust, and safety...

So, it's definitely not something that the P5 should need to worry themselves about, it's clean enough.

The excerpts from Kaoru's magazines are more explicit than anything that happens between Nana, Kaoru, or the other girl that shows up, but they're infrequent. I was reading this for a while and lost track of it...it's surprisingly good considering the topic, and I don't think it's enough to warrant more than a possible cleanup.

edited 22nd Jun '12 7:59:24 AM by Willbyr

Update the third: Chapter 3 is more of the same. With Willbyr's and Raidou's input, probably safe to call this after two more chapters.

Update the fourth: More of the same. Noticing a pattern yet?

Update the final: Chapters 5 and 6 are again heavily fanservicey, but not pornographic. Some labia depicted in relief under panties. When things could have got explicit, the manga opted for a discretion shot rather than actually showing on-panel.

Verdict: Keep, clean if necessary

Pro:

• No nudity in the six chapters viewed
• Use of discretion shots when things get too explicit
• Nothing remotely approaching pedopandering

Con:

• Genitals shown in relief under panties

Honestly, despite the fetishy stuff and heavy fanservice, it never actually strays into pornographic territory. Showing nipples and labia in relief are as explicit as it gets, and other ecchi manga do much the same thing without breaking guidelines (see also: To Love Ru).

edited 22nd Jun '12 8:24:21 AM by tdgoodrich1

@shadis: On the other side though, there's something like August's "Operation Sanctuary", which on going through a cg rip I'd estimate is somewhere between 75% and 90% sex scenes. But they only make up a relatively small amount of the actual gameplay.

(Mind you, if we had a page on the original game, it'd probably be getting removed anyway because of Yui-sensei. But that's a separate issue.)

Brain Cleanser!

...why?

Because someone other then me actually remembered that series existed, obviously.

Why must you remind me that people exist that actually want to sexualize Chacha?

edited 22nd Jun '12 11:09:49 AM by Raidouthe21st

I love cute stuff, but people need to stop combining it with sex.

@Morganite: I will have to take your word for it, like I said I have little experience with V Ns at all, I also noted that it might just be a nitro-plus thing due to the two V Ns I looked at being nitro-plus titles.

Animeg: May I ask WTF is Akazukin Chacha?

For the sake of the thread, P Ms are okay. <_<

/offtopic.

edited 22nd Jun '12 12:16:32 PM by Sachiko

... I thought it was Tokyo Akazukin you were talking about

(when did it get cut and locked? P5 or wanton cutlisting?)

edited 22nd Jun '12 12:34:27 PM by Adannor

P5

The rest of the Rance series, Rance, Rance II, and Rance Quest have been flagged by someone, presumably to be looked at and voted on individually.

A hentai anime called Anne Haramix has also been flagged.