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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#1451: Jul 10th 2017 at 2:43:00 AM

No, it's fun, atmospheric, and silly in the right way. But your experience is yours alone.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1452: Jul 10th 2017 at 8:54:54 AM

I thought it was cluttered, myself. It started the trend that persisted in Batman films for awhile, of trying to cram too many villains into a movie, and therefore too many stories to tell for one movie.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#1453: Jul 10th 2017 at 9:06:24 AM

I've always had a fondness for Batman Returns, but I can acknowledge it is objectively not a very good movie.

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#1454: Jul 11th 2017 at 8:57:34 AM

There is no such thing as objectivity when talking about the quality things like art, movies, videogames etc.

edited 11th Jul '17 8:57:54 AM by Thelastwarrior

Rubber_Lotus Since: May, 2014
#1455: Jul 11th 2017 at 5:00:22 PM

When you try to look at it as a whole, Batman Returns is obviously a disjointed mess that can't decide what it wants to be about, but really, that could apply to all the Burton-Schumacher movies. Thus, we're left focusing on individual setpieces and snippets of dialogue, and in that category I'd say Returns wins handily. Max Schreck alone is one of the most quotable baddies I've ever seen.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1456: Jul 13th 2017 at 4:41:16 AM

Dark Days: The Casting was interesting. Some of it was going over my head/making it hurt a lot, but it seemed like we got some clarity on why Bruce and Joker were interested in Duke, some brief but gentle Bruce and Talia interaction, and an explanation for why Joker's back to being his normal brand of insane following Endgame.

Your storytime is over should be used to end every such read through on /co/

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#1458: Jul 14th 2017 at 2:20:26 PM

Batman: The Dark Prince Charming graphic novel series coming in November

Acclaimed European comics master Enrico Marini makes his American comics debut with an original, two-part graphic novel starring the Dark Knight! What secret connection do both Batman and The Joker share with a strange and mysterious young girl? After she’s kidnapped by The Joker, Batman must plunge deep into the underworld of Gotham City and race against time to find out where she’s being held. The stakes are high, and for Batman, it’s personal!

Book one of Batman: The Dark Prince Charming will be in stores on November 1, 2017. Look for book two coming in spring 2018!

edited 14th Jul '17 2:23:07 PM by Halberdier17

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1459: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:04:54 PM

Had Batman Returns just focused on Batman vs. Catwoman and Bruce vs. Selina, cut out Penguin, cut out Max Schreck, and just dealt with a Caped Crusader vs. Gentlewoman Thief, it would have been much more fascinating.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1460: Jul 15th 2017 at 4:27:33 PM

There isn't much you can do with Catwoman, though, that leads to big set-piece action sequences. She's a more intimate antagonist and calls for a more intimate story. That'd be a great movie, but it's not the kind of thing they generally want for summer blockbusters.

Rubber_Lotus Since: May, 2014
#1461: Jul 15th 2017 at 6:00:03 PM

Yeah, Catwoman hasn't held down a story by herself since, I think, the Adam West show. And that Catwoman was a mustache-twirling supervillain who was perfectly comfortable hanging out with the Joker.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#1462: Jul 15th 2017 at 6:11:16 PM

That Joker is a pretty harmless dude, though !

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#1463: Jul 15th 2017 at 7:04:35 PM

Catwoman can, and has, held down stories by herself. They're just not stories where Batman is the lead. If they made a movie based on Genevieve Valentine's run on the comics, or based on Brubaker's storylines, it'd work just fine. It's just that Selina doesn't work too well as the villain to Batman's hero. She's a great hero on her own terms though.

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1464: Jul 15th 2017 at 7:29:45 PM

Yeah. Belligerent Sexual Tension never happens in films as the main theme.

Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1465: Jul 16th 2017 at 4:22:18 PM

If they want to do a movie about the actual Catwoman (not the Halle Berry version) then that'd be great. But she shouldn't show up as anything other than a supporting character in a Batman film. The same with Batman in a Catwoman film.

It'd be neat to see a Catwoman film that does what Suicide Squad could've done, provide the audience with a grand tour of DC supervilliany without focusing on the heroes' need to stop them. Here's Catwoman, a costumed thief, having to navigate around the crazies who infest Gotham. Really, all she wants to do is steal the Cat's Eye emerald, and that nut Poison Ivy has filled the display hall with vines and creepers, and the Scarecrow has dumped fear toxin in the water.

Zarius Since: Nov, 2012
#1466: Jul 20th 2017 at 10:34:01 AM

Full Coverage of DC's Press Breakfast

Paul Dini and Jimmy Palmiotti will return sometime next year for another chapter in Harley's story

Tom King says the Batman/Catwoman proposal storyline is the half-way point of his epic novel, and that you won't know if Bruce's attempts to make Selina his bride are sincere or another layer of his insanity. The revelation in Jokes and Riddles shakes Selina to her core and drives Bruce on a desert quest that will baffle his Robins and the JL.

The theme of King's run is Can Batman ever truly get over the loss of Thomas and Martha Wayne?

King's run will be a hundred issues

edited 20th Jul '17 10:42:03 AM by Zarius

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#1467: Jul 20th 2017 at 10:39:11 AM

The link didn't work because it says full after html.

Delete full and it works.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#1469: Jul 20th 2017 at 10:48:37 AM

[up][up] Only if the writers finally get bored of Bruce staying stuck in that phase.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1470: Jul 20th 2017 at 2:23:45 PM

"The theme of King's run is Can Batman ever truly get over the loss of Thomas and Martha Wayne?"

The answer is: Yes. Yes he can. He even has, under some other writers. Other writers have explicitly stated that Batman is not continuously avenging his parents' muder, but the murder was simply a catalyst in his life that inspired him to do what he could to stop other such tragedies and fight the crime and injustice that lead to the suffering of innocents. It's not a new idea. The real theme of King's run is "Can I pull Batman out of the stew of depressive psychoses I insist that he have?" Which remains to be seen.

Cuber Since: Jan, 2016
#1471: Jul 20th 2017 at 2:51:29 PM

Grant Morrison just announced at comic con that he's doing an Arkham Asylum comic with Chris Burnham staring Batman 666 Damian Wayne.

(I'm hyped. I fucking love Batman 666)

You're just in time. Bayble Cuber's going to watch an inkle dribble adventure from days of old on my holo-pyramid viewer.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#1475: Aug 9th 2017 at 10:29:54 AM

I'm not a fan of the name, honestly. I'd much prefer Lark, since it fits the avian theme the bats usually go for.


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