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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#1401: Jun 21st 2017 at 5:02:52 PM

And I'm saying, as someone who has a speech disorder, that it comes across like a slap to the face when one of the only nonverbal superheroes suddenly starts reciting Shakespeare with no prior buildup.

Under Kelley Puckett, it took Cassandra Cain years before she could even say a sentence as simple as "Wanted to be free".

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#1402: Jun 21st 2017 at 5:04:32 PM

And okay, while I get that, saying that the writer abandoned her speech difficulties is not accurate. I can get disagreeing how the play recital scene was handled, but literally the exact same page makes it clear she still has her handicap. So saying he's being inconsistent or forgot about it or whatever just doesn't actually jibe with what's actually written there.

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#1403: Jun 21st 2017 at 5:22:30 PM

Ok looking at the one-shots for Dark Days here are who they each represent:

The Red Death/The Flash, The Murderer Machine/Cyborg, The Dawnbreaker/Green Lantern, The Drowned/Aquaman, The Merciless/Wonder Woman, The Devastator/Doomsday(?) & The Batman Who Laughs is obviously the Joker. Devastator is the only one I'm having trouble figuring out since Doomy doesn't have an insignia but they have similar builds.

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caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#1404: Jun 21st 2017 at 6:55:17 PM

On Batman-News they hate everything after Night of the Monster Men that is happening in Detective Comics.

Some of the comments hated that "Batman has to constantly get shown up in Detective Comics by other members of the Batfamily"

Yeah, I've heard those same complaints, and they honestly make me wonder if they're reading the same book as I am.

and one comment was about the Metal Tie-ins about the Evil Batman from the Dark Multiverse they wanted them to kill every member of the Batfamily in Detective Comics so it would no longer be a Batfamily book and become a Batman solo book.

Damn. I wish I understood how people can be so vindictive toward such minor things (or maybe I don't, come to think of it).

I don't know I personally love Detective Comics. Though I didn't get a chance to read last weeks issue since it is still on its way to my house.

I think you're in for a treat. IMO this was the best opener to an arc in a while. There are a lot of choices that made this issue feel fresh, and it has some of the best character interactions yet.

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Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#1405: Jun 29th 2017 at 9:15:01 AM

Anyone read the crossover with Elmer Fudd? It was amazing.

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AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1406: Jun 29th 2017 at 10:33:05 AM

Still working on Wonder Woman/Tasmanian Devil.... and Legion of Super Heroes/Bugs Bunny.... and Martian Manhunter/Marvin Martian....

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#1407: Jun 29th 2017 at 10:41:30 AM

I only picked up Legion/Bugs, but a friend of mine said that Elmer Fudd/Batman was the second best of the lot.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1409: Jun 29th 2017 at 3:14:32 PM

I burst down laughing at the very first line:

Way to set the tone.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#1410: Jul 5th 2017 at 3:35:11 PM

That Batman and Harley Quinn movie is getting a prequel comic. http://www.cbr.com/batman-harley-animated-film-prequel-comic/

"It’s the team-up we’ve been dreaming of as the cute psychopath Harley Quinn joins the brooding Dark Knight for a brand-new Digital First comic series, HARLEY QUINN AND BATMAN. The series, from Batman writer Ty Templeton and artist Rick Burchett, is an exciting new five-chapter prequel adventure to the Batman And Harley Quinn animated film coming out this August from Warner Bros. Home Entertainment.

Harley Quinn is a legend in her own mind, so when she realizes the Joker thinks of her as a sidekick, she takes her revenge. Harley’s now faced with a hard decision to break out as her own super-villain, and she’s willing to go for it!"

edited 5th Jul '17 3:35:23 PM by lalalei2001

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Cuber Since: Jan, 2016
#1411: Jul 5th 2017 at 4:53:57 PM

Rick Burchett's Detective Comics work is super under-rated, so its cool to see DC bringing him back for more Batman stuff.

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Rubber_Lotus Since: May, 2014
#1412: Jul 5th 2017 at 5:21:03 PM

Ty Templeton's still doing DC stuff? Hallelujah.

No joke - Templeton is the only writer I can think of who can actually match Dini's Harley, though that might be because he almost exclusively wrote for DCAU tie-in comics...

Thelastwarrior Since: Jun, 2017
#1413: Jul 5th 2017 at 5:54:58 PM

So is the film canon to the DCAU or is it standalone? Also I wonder if it will tackle Harley and Ivy's sexuality.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#1414: Jul 5th 2017 at 7:32:43 PM

[up] It's done in the BTAS style, but standalone, and it seems to be shipping Harley and Nightwing, as she and Ivy had a falling-out apparently. Ivy and the Floronic Man are the villains, so Batman recruits Harley to help him fight them and figure out their plan. Bruce Timm's writing it.

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Rubber_Lotus Since: May, 2014
#1415: Jul 5th 2017 at 7:35:34 PM

Ah. Can we expect more Batcest, then?

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#1416: Jul 5th 2017 at 8:54:36 PM

[up]Probably, with plenty of Harley hitting on Batman. Harley has exhibited interest in maybe half the bat family, from hitting on a couple of Batgirls to that time she kissed Batman-twice, and made sure the second one was on the lips and lingering.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1417: Jul 6th 2017 at 2:23:51 AM

"Don't push your luck."

To be fair, he'd done her a real solid that one time. Or at least he tried.

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Robbery Since: Jul, 2012
#1418: Jul 7th 2017 at 8:52:53 AM

[up] I remember one of the things I didn't like in that episode is it portrayed Harley like a poor, innocent Cloud Cuckoo Lander. I mean, she used to function in the regular world just fine. In service to the Joker, she masqueraded as a lawyer. Now, she doesn't know enough to not roller-skate around in public with a pair of hyenas, and flips out when a store clerk just wants to remove a security tag.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great, funny episode, but it hinges on the idea that Harley's brains all flew out the window when she was released from Arkham.

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1419: Jul 7th 2017 at 11:56:28 AM

Hand Wave: when in service of Mr. Jay, she makes a tremendous effort of will to focus and perform the task at hand to perfection. Otherwise how did a psychiatrist become an acrobatic mallet-wielding Badass Normal?

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Rubber_Lotus Since: May, 2014
#1420: Jul 7th 2017 at 6:24:28 PM

She got through University on a gymnastics scholarship, I believe. And in the post-Crisis canon Ivy's little "booster shot" made her at least mildly superhuman in strength and speed.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#1421: Jul 7th 2017 at 8:00:18 PM

She got into university on the scholarship, but she's still a phd. That takes a lot of time, effort and intelligence.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1423: Jul 8th 2017 at 12:39:03 PM

So my fanfic is finally happening: Joker becomes a good guy in Batman: White Knight.

Sean Gordon Murphy has been teasing out details from his Batman solo project for weeks, releasing tantalizing pieces of artwork and clues via his Twitter account. Now, we finally have our first concrete details about the writer/artist’s ambitious Gotham City-based project, and it’s probably not what anyone expected: Batman: White Knight will cast the vigilante’s classic nemesis 'the Joker in the role of Gotham City’s protector, as he attempts to save it from the criminal machinations of a bat-costumed Bruce Wayne.

Great.

I mean, if Bane could do it, I suppose it was only a matter of time before the Joker did.

My main goal was to undo the comic tropes while changing Gotham from a comic book city into a real city—a city dealing with everything from Black Lives Matter to the growing wage gap,” Murphy told Wired in an interview announcing the series. “[But] rather than write a comic about the wage gap, I gave those ideas to the Joker, who leads a kind of media war against Gotham’s elite by winning people over with his potent observations and rhetoric.”

Okay, you're losing me a little but I can kind of see this working, I mean, Joker was a comedian maybe, right? That would be who he would be if he weren't the Joker. And Bruce Wayne as a proper careless, evil corporate leader? Still going to be a comic book worth r-

“It’s sexy to think crime can be stopped with a fist, but the real solution is a lot more boring than that: education, increasing wages, and building trust,” Murphy added. “The line Batman rides between ‘noble vigilante’ and ‘overzealous oppressor’ will always be shifting as our own society changes.”

Though he stopped short of revealing his series’ premise ahead of the official unveiling, Murphy has been teasing his plans to add his own spin to the Batman mythos. One of his earlier tweets, in which he shared his take on the Joker, promised, “My Batman story makes it OK to have a crush on Joker!” With the Clown Prince of Crime (and apparently his longtime girlfriend Harley Quinn) now cast in the role of savior rather than enemy of Gotham, it’s now clear that he really meant what he wrote.

Groan.

“We know the Joker is a genius, we know he’s relentless, and we know he can play the crowd, so why not make him a politician?” Murphy said of the Joker’s new role. “Frank Miller modeled him after David Bowie. Chris Nolan showed him as a controlled sociopath. I see the Joker as Don Draper.”

I might loathe this guy's apparent mentality in regards to this mythos but I like the idea of role reversal in general.

edited 8th Jul '17 12:42:44 PM by Soble

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#1424: Jul 8th 2017 at 12:54:01 PM

Frank Miller modeled him after David Bowie

Damn, I'd never noticed. That is wrong on so many levels.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#1425: Jul 8th 2017 at 1:32:30 PM

But what about Cesar Romeo and Jack Nicholson's Jokers? :P

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