Discussion of religion in the context of LGBTQ+ rights is only allowed in this thread.
Discussion of religion in any other context is off topic in all of the "LGBTQ+ rights..." threads.
Attempting to bait others into bringing up religion is also not allowed.
Edited by Mrph1 on Dec 1st 2023 at 6:52:14 PM
Old Florida Man Yells at Cloud.
edited 8th Oct '15 8:00:06 AM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothesI found an image◊ that's possibly related to this thread.
edited 12th Oct '15 5:08:55 AM by hellomoto
The devil needs some action.
This is a signature.Tennessee county votes against resolution to seek mercy from the Almighty over marriage equality.
So old Tennessee man yells at cloud, gets told to knock it off...gets devoured by a green boogeyman?
edited 12th Oct '15 7:38:33 PM by Morgikit
Beautiful
Oh really when?Im getting redirects and webpage gone. Can you tell me what happened?
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - AszurThe Blount County Commission voted 10-5 to reject an agenda that included the resolution and adjourned without debate. Onlookers crowding the meeting room, most dressed in red in support of same-sex marriage, yelled in frustration, and one shouted "cowards" at the commissioners.
Commissioner Karen Miller, who introduced the resolution, said she had no idea that the agenda would be turned down.
"I was totally in the dark," she told reporters. Miller said she was "very disappointed, because people have a right to speak."
Miller said she likely would reintroduce her resolution. Maryville is a town of some 27,000 people about 15 miles south of Knoxville.
Her "resolution condemning judicial tyranny and petitioning God's mercy" called on the state to join Blount County in fighting against the Supreme Court's June ruling legalizing gay marriage.
The text requests that God "pass us by in His Coming Wrath and not destroy our County as He did Sodom and Gomorrah."
A similar resolution without the appeal to God's mercy was passed last month in nearby Greene County. A bill in Tennessee's legislature introduced two weeks ago calls on the state to nullify the Supreme Court ruling.
In the neighboring state of Kentucky, county clerk Kim Davis has gained national attention for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples because of her religious beliefs.
Protesters from the Tennessee Equality Project, a gay rights group, filled most of the meeting room and about 100 outside the building were unable to enter. Many had been protesting throughout the day.
"I respect others' opinions. I don't agree with those opinions, but I feel like when it comes down to it, religion has no place at all in government," said Ashley Abbott, a Blount County resident and TEP member.
Khristrine Weick, protesting against gay marriage outside the commission building, said she backed Miller's resolution.
"I believe if we continue to spit God in the face, we're going to get it," she said.
Wow...I wish I could be surprised, but that's actually pretty normal around here. So boo...
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - AszurWhat rejecting it is normal? Because that's the new bit, that they actually voted it down.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThat it was raised to begin with and the attitude of the supporters.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - AszurIncidentally, in the US, 20 trans people have been murdered by cisgender people just this year. So who's the bigger threat to who?
edited 13th Oct '15 11:36:13 AM by Morgikit
Man, Tiffa and Aerith won't like this at all.
Inter arma enim silent legesLies. Ever since someone made that plugin, cloud-to-butt assaults have been ravaging our site and destroying dozens of edits.
Of course he doesn't like Cloud. He thinks that a HERO is the worst thing ever.
"Incidentally, in the US, 20 trans people have been murdered by cisgender people just this year. So who's the bigger threat to who?"
How many cis people were murdered by other cis people?
I figured there's just a lot of cis people to go around.
I think those 20 were killed for being trans. Not including people killed who just happened to be trans. I doubt someone was killed for being cis.
To be fair, just saying 20 trans people have been murdered is insufficient detail to answer the question. We'd need to know what percentage of murders those 20 represented and compare it to the demographic as a whole.
Now, I suspect the number will turn out to be disproportionately large, but as of yet I don't know that it is.
And, of course, it wouldn't establish whether the victims' sexual proclivities were always, or even usually, the motive. But then again, the legislators in question don't have any firmer grounds for considering it a causative factor in committing violence.
But the Texas controversy (as opposed to Tennessee) isn't so relevant to the Religion thread, and probably belongs in the "LGBT Rights and America" thread.
And this is why it was a mistake to create two separate threads. Sure it involves American politics, but this particular article refers to a speech given by a religious leader. So do we file it under politics or religion?
The Mormons have just declared all same-sex couples to be apostates.
Two steps forward, one step back...
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)Just one step?
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.In some heartwarming news, Reform Judaism has come out full-force for transgender rights, in an unopposed vote of their religious leaders.
“We have a longstanding commitment to bringing in people who have heretofore been on the margins of society,” said Rabbi Rick Jacobs, the president of the Union for Reform Judaism. “For us, this is not just political correctness, but opening possibilities theologically.”
The new stance was not particularly controversial within a group with a long history of recognizing the rights of gay and transgender people; it approved the resolution on a voice vote, without opposition, at its biennial conference this week in Orlando, Fla.
A handful of religious denominations have stated some degree of support for transgender rights, “but I don’t think we’ve seen anything as comprehensive as this from any other faith communities,” said Michael Toumayan, the Religion and Faith Program manager at the Human Rights Campaign.
The policy calls on Reform congregations, and organizations like camps and schools, to welcome people of all gender identities and refer to them by their chosen names, genders and pronouns, to provide gender-neutral restrooms where possible, and to work with transgender rights groups “to spread awareness and increase knowledge of issues related to gender identity,” possibly including “cultural competency training” for religious school employees.
It also calls for changing to gender-neutral language, even if it means altering the wording of traditional prayers, though in reality, Reform Judaism has been making such changes for years. And the resolution urges governments to adopt transgender rights measures.
Both Reform and Conservative Judaism had already adopted policies against discrimination based on gender identity, as have a few Christian denominations, including the Episcopal Church, Mr. Toumayan said.
Reform Judaism is especially prominent in the United States and Canada, where it claims 1.5 million adherents in almost 900 congregations. It is the most liberal of the religion’s major wings, and emphasizes adaptability to the modern world, rather than strict adherence to ancient rules.
Orthodox Judaism is the most traditional wing, and the Conservative, or Masorti, movement lies between them.
Regarding the Mormons banning the kids of gay couples from joining, whenever I hear about something like this my only though is "Well, why would anyone want to join now?"
I mean, my reaction would boil down to "Well, fuck your shit then."
Neither the Mormons nor Reform Judaism is likely to see any dramatic departures or conversions as a result of their announcements. Both news items are, all but literally, a case of preaching to the choir.
Florida considering granting special privileges to clergy (that according to the US Constitution they already have anyway).
But apparently since the federal Constitution no longer considers homosexuals to be brain-damaged criminals, it's not good enough to be the law of the land anymore.