Manga/Dragon Ball

Didn't that have Nappa in it for some reason, and he was working for Pilaf?

No, you're thinking of the third atrocious live-action Dragon Ball adaptation. There's fucking three of these things. There were three terrible live-action Dragon Ball movies made. All of them are approximately the same amount of bad.

Goes to show ya that live-action anime movies are hard to make in general, not just for the U.S.

I mean, this was back when we still had 80-90s-style special effects for live action films, and the best of those were saved for blockbuster movies.

So apparently the Switch version of Xenoverse 2 comes with Xenoverse 1's story included?

Really?

That's what some reports I'm seeing say.

Yes, Xenoverse 2 for Switch does come with the first game's story, though I think you have download through a code.

Also, this is hilarious:

that's pretty nuts. i'd be tempted to buy the switch version had i not already bought both xenoverse 1 and 2 and all the dlc.

So question, but could one be capable of getting used to the added mass from Super Saiyan Grade III, in much the same way one could get used to heavy weighted clothing and increased gravity?

I don't think so.

At least I'm assuming as much. I guess if you were willing to make the effort.

Anyway, I watched Blood Rubies yesterday. I liked how Bulma saved the day by throwing the last ball into the dude's mouth and then summoning the dragon. That's pretty cool.

It's not a perfect movie obviously, but there are things there I liked.

I may need to watch that movie especially due to Super really leaving a bad taste in mouth.

Uh, I guess...with years of practice, they could train their muscles to move faster through sheer willpower. Not sure why'd you want to though, when you can train with more efficient forms.

Yeah once you know Super Saiyan 2 exists there's no reason to not go for that instead.

I mean, you'd basically get weight and stamina training if you trained in the form constantly, plus, with everything we've seen them do with ki, I'm wondering why they never tried creating some sort of ki buffer to lighten the feeling of that mass off of them.

Isn't SS 3 power degradation aside a stronger transformation than SS 2?

SSJ 3 gives a power increase (from x4 to x8 right?) in return for a massive ki drain, right? Sure, you're going to hit harder, but you're working on a timer. It's not an issue of if you're gonna drop out of the transformation for that one, but when.

edited 28th Jun '17 2:09:12 PM by MyssaRei

Super Saiyan is 50x base power.

Super Saiyan 2 is 2x Super Saiyan or 100x base power.

Super Saiyan 3 is 4x Super Saiyan 2 or 400x base power.

Super Saiyan Blue is [REDACTED].

But yes, the problem with SSJ3 is that, while it's power is great, its power drain is even greater.

edited 28th Jun '17 2:11:02 PM by Zelenal

Dumb question:

Krillin was supposed to be stronger than the entire to the Ginyu Force (sans Ginyu) by the end of the Frieza arc (though it didn't happen until after they'd kicked his ass and Vegeta had murdered them all), but I'm trying to remember what their power levels were.

It had to be stronger than the level Vegeta was at when he fought them (or when he was only 18,000 on Earth).

For shits and giggles (and despite how much trouble power levels tend to cause) I was looking up how much it was supposed to be, but I'm not finding anything I'm sure about.

I mean, Goku seemed to be more relaxed in Super Saiyan 3 when he used it against Beerus, implying that he had been training himself to control the form better than he did during the Buu Saga, it's just that it and every other Super Saiyan form gets blown out of the water once the God forms show up, with Goku only really using the first Super Saiyan form when he's either holding back or showboating.

All of them besides Guldo and Ginyu had power levels between 50,000 and 70,000; Guldo was probably weaker than Zarbon and Dodoria but made up for it with his telekinesis and Time Stop, and Ginyu had one of 120,000, 1000 times weaker than Frieza himself at his max power.

edited 28th Jun '17 2:18:03 PM by Ssj3Gojira

• Krillin, 75,000=/+
• Ginyu, 120,000
• the rest of the Ginyu Force except Guldo, much more than 30,000 (Vegeta at the time he fought and got his ass kicked by Recoome) but much less than 60,000 (what Ginyu assumes Goku is and why he beat his men so easily)
• Guldo just much weaker than the others.

edited 28th Jun '17 2:31:19 PM by LSBK

Shouldn't they be working on improving the SS 3 then?

If it provides the higher power boost then it is better if its issues can be fixed.

Nope. If there's one thing DBZ has taught me, it's that it's better to just invent an even better form that makes the old one So Last Season, then try and iron out the kinks of the current one.

The thing with Super Sayian 3 is that if you can't beat someone in that form before your run out of power, you're not going to be able to beat them with the lower forms anyway. 4x powerlevel increase is huge.

@Rob: It's not hard to find.