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Probably got murdered before he had the chance.
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I mean, the only reason Kami ended up fusing with Piccolo in the present was Cell.
Piccolo wanted to fuse with Kami because of the androids, but. Cell was ultimately the reason Kami actually agreed to it.
17 and 18 would kill a bunch of people, but. They weren't a threat to the planet itself per se.
They didn't drink people's souls.
edited 30th Nov '15 5:23:42 PM by unnoun
Wasn't that filler, though?
The souls thing, I mean.
edited 30th Nov '15 5:27:35 PM by BaconManiac5000
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The Merry Monarch of Darkness
If they are stronger than Frieza, they should be able to destroy a planet, actually.
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
It's not a question of whether they could, it's a question of whether they would.
And somehow I don't think they would. I don't think it'd be fun for them.
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Yeah, these were the people who, given unlimited stamina and the ability to fly, chose to steal a truck. Planetary destruction doesn't seem to be their thing.
That's why he wants you to have the money. Not so you can buy 14 Cadillacs but so you can help build up the wastes
Present 17 and 18 are also stronger than their future counterparts.
Perhaps whatever power restraints Gero put on them in Trunks' timeline also put restraints on their morality?
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I don't think there was any kind of power restraints in Trunks' timeline. I go with Multiverse's theory myself; Universe 9's Android 17, Yamcha points out when he goes up against Future 18 — who wonders why she's doing so badly — that there's no such thing as infinite energy. If they don't do maintenance on themselves every once in a while, they're going to get weaker over time.
edited 30th Nov '15 5:59:50 PM by BaffleBlend
"It's liberating, realizing you never need to be competent." — Ultimatepheer
It's worth noting that, in the manga version of History of Trunks, Gohan gets a zenkai and thinks that he's now stronger than the Androids and can beat them.
Then 17 tells him that they've been holding back the entire time they've known him.
Then they kill him.
So. It's entirely possible that the Future androids were as strong as their Present counterparts but never used their full strength against Trunks.
He can't sense their energy so his main metric for how strong they were would be based on them punching him.
himitsu keisatsu
If they aren't weaker than the ones in the main timeline, then the most likely answer is that Trunks simply didn't know how strong they actually are. Remember: He can't feel their power. Neither he nor Gohan actually pressed them into unleashing their full power before, so it stands to reason that Trunks simply doesn't know the limits of their strength.
Also, Kami would have fused with Piccolo against the significantly eviler 17 and 18 of the future timeline. 'Cause, you know, they were slaughtering humanity. He didn't in the main timeline because the androids were mostly harmless dicks only truly dangerous to Goku.
edited 30th Nov '15 6:02:55 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
I have always believed that Future 17 ans 18 were exactly as powerful as present 17 and 18, Future Trunks just never knew how powerful they really were because he and Future Gohan never forced the Future androids to use more than half of their full power.
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So why would he assume that the present 17 and 18 are stronger than their future counterparts.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Because they hit him harder.
That's literally all he has to go off of.
edited 30th Nov '15 6:25:33 PM by unnoun
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Because he thinks that he's seen the full power of their future counterparts. Do note that Future 17 and 18 only using about half of their power is in the manga.
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Because one of Future Trunks' flaws is refusing to accept his weakness.
edited 30th Nov '15 6:39:32 PM by VeryMelon
Because the only way Future Trunks can tell how strong someone is when he can't sense their energy is by letting them punch him in the head so he can see how quickly they can give him a concussion.
Which, to be fair, used to be one of his dad's favorite tactics even against opponents whose energy he could sense. So. There's that.
Vegeta: 250,000
Frieza: 530,000
Vegeta: "POWER UP FRIEZA! SHOW ME YOUR NEXT FORM!"
See, the thing is that "he thought that Frieza's next form wouldn't be that much stronger" is a shit explanation because Vegeta was at least stronger than Zarbon's first form.
Frieza could have kicked Vegeta's ass in his first form. Could have taken all three of them, even, probably. Gohan and Vegeta working together might have given him some trouble, but Vegeta doesn't work together with people very well.
And Krillin wasn't even worth mentioning at that point.
edited 30th Nov '15 7:01:16 PM by unnoun
My only guess is that Trunks probably just assumed that the present day Androids were stronger than his own because he still got trashed by them even though he was, presumably, stronger than he was in his past fights with them in the future
...what am I even DOING here?
Now I actually like the idea. The Future Androids are as strong as the present ones, but Trunks didn't realise because they never used their full power in his time.
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
It's a pretty popular fanon.
Finally got caught up on Super after not watching it for a while. If I didn't know better from years of DBZ Genre Savvy, I might think they're leading up to something significant there with Krillin.
All in all, the Resurrection F arc is a lot better than the Battle of Gods arc, at least imo. There's more substance to both the main plot and the slice of life / character interaction. It even made me actually excited to watch the stuff I'd already seen in the movies for once.
Episode 17 is my favorite so far, though. The irresponsibility. The sheer, hilarious irresponsibility. So many great jokes.
edited 30th Nov '15 7:48:52 PM by KnownUnknown
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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It's not fanon, it's canon. The Future Androids state as much when Gohan challenges them for the last time in the manga.
Except the Androids also weren't using their full power (or anywhere close to it) in the present, and he still calls them stronger.
It's still ambiguous.
The Cat Knows Where It's At
That's easy. In his encounters with the Androids of his time, a single Super Saiyan seemed to be able to hold his own again both of them. As soon as he encounters the Androids in the new timeline, a single one completely wrecks their shit. Trunks thought they were stronger but they weren't. The Future Androids were just holding back so that they'd have someone to toy with.
There's no ambiguity to it. Do note that the line from the Future Androids about them holding back is immediately followed by Future Gohan's death.
edited 30th Nov '15 7:55:48 PM by Zelenal
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...what am I even DOING here?
I think I've figured out why Gohan being useless has been bugging me so much. It's not just because I like his character. It's because the plot is actively punishing him for following his dreams.
He wanted to be a scholar, and he didn't necessarily want to train. And the plot is saying that's a bad thing. He's not allowed to do what he wants, because then he's a nerd! And he'll get weaker! And that's a bad thing, because he doesn't get to do anything cool in the plot!
What kind of message is that? 'If you don't want to fight, that's stupid and you're stupid for thinking that'?
The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
I see.
Also, why didn't Piccolo try fusing with Kami in the future?
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