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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3002: Dec 7th 2014 at 7:28:03 AM

And you guys thought I was joking when I said everyone dies in this arc.

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majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
Immanentizing the eschaton
#3003: Dec 7th 2014 at 7:29:35 AM

Welcome to life.

Jesus dude, if that's your life, I don't even know what to say.

Yuuki's backstory is like that one time in Welcome to the NHK where Sato and Yamazaki try to create the ultimate moe girl, only with sad backstories.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#3004: Dec 7th 2014 at 1:43:00 PM

I'm still confused. In the future, despite all the advances in technology, including the ability to go all Matrix for one's VR MMO games, no one has found a cure for AIDS yet? You'd think that would take more precedence over all other technologies and medicine.

Ghost55 from Munich Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#3005: Dec 7th 2014 at 1:58:52 PM

The doctor said that AI Ds was very treatable. Yuuki just gt a nasty drug resistant strain.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3006: Dec 7th 2014 at 2:02:53 PM

[up][up] Welcome to the story where a disease has plot armor.

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TropayXion The i. one. from HEART Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#3007: Dec 7th 2014 at 2:37:08 PM

"Good news: We can cure the lethal disease you have."

" : D "

"Bad news, you specifically are immune to the treatment."

"..."

Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
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#3008: Dec 7th 2014 at 4:20:55 PM

Um...I-I understand Yuuki's plight and all, but...

SAO really played up Yuuki's situation and milked it for all its worth, huh? It just wasn't enough for her to have AIDS? Not only did she have AIDS...

  • Her parents died.
  • Her sister died.
  • She was bullied.
  • She was medicated at a young age.
  • She's essentially a vegetable awaiting death...

It's as if the show is trying very hard to make everyone feel sorry for Yuuki. Like saying "Look at this girl. Look at her! Her life is so crappy and she's going to die, yet despite that, she has a smile as radiant as the sun! Surely you all will take pity on this kindred spirit!"

...

W-What I'm saying is, some viewers will probably look at this as some kind of emotional manipulation, see through the "trick", and look at Yuuki's situation with stone-cold faces...

edited 7th Dec '14 4:21:36 PM by Diamite

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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ShinyTsukkomi ( ! ) from a building with air conditioning, most likely. (Life not ruined yet)
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#3010: Dec 7th 2014 at 4:45:36 PM

I can get the bullying and the meds. Sister died? Ehh...fine. They built it up enough for me, and she may have had the same condition since they were twins.

Now the fact that her parents died was complete overkill.

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HanabiraKage …マジで? Since: Oct, 2011
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#3011: Dec 7th 2014 at 5:06:03 PM

[up] Considering it was her mom who got the transfusion, I think it's fairly realistic that the whole family'd get infected too.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#3012: Dec 7th 2014 at 6:57:51 PM

What did this family do to the author to deserve this!?!?

ashnazg Since: Dec, 2009
#3013: Dec 7th 2014 at 10:18:37 PM

[up][up]Agreed, the outcome is perfectly reasonable given the premise, that the parent was infected in the first place.

@L Dragon: Curing diseases is hard. In the future known as 2014, with all the advances in technology including the ability to communicate real-time with people ten thousand kilometres away, no one has found a cure for the common cold?

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3014: Dec 7th 2014 at 10:41:21 PM

By my understanding, we have in a way. What makes the common cold so troublesome is that it evolves very rapidly so what works against one strain usually won't work against next year's. By my understand, this and that are very different.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#3015: Dec 7th 2014 at 11:56:38 PM

[up] Pretty much. (Though multiple strains exist and trying to guess which ones will be the dominant ones can be a matter of luck as much as anything else. And some strains are nigh on impossible to wipe out because reserves exist in wild animal population. That's why bird flu and swine flu are called that).

The common cold is an extreme example, but the evolution or anti-biotic resistant microbes and quinine-resistant malaria are real problem here and now. I've even heard of HIV strains that are resistant to current anti-retroviral treatments.

ashnazg Since: Dec, 2009
#3016: Dec 8th 2014 at 6:51:24 AM

[up][up]It's not all that different. One point which makes HIV hard to deal with is the fact that a as a retrovirus, it has a rather high mutation rate. Not quite as extreme as the common cold, but pretty fast.

Though the general point I was making was simply that medicine is a tough job, and often there's no a priori way to tell whether a particular disease will prove difficult to tackle.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3017: Dec 8th 2014 at 7:28:43 AM

Still, what they're saying is "We can normally cure HIV but we can't cure your HIV" which, even if plausible, still comes off as BS in the world of writing.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#3018: Dec 8th 2014 at 8:23:17 AM

[up][up][up][up]It's the main reason why we need to get a flu shot each year instead of just once!

edited 8th Dec '14 8:23:28 AM by kyun

kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#3019: Dec 8th 2014 at 10:30:00 AM

[up][up] Not really. We throw antibiotics at everything now, so we're pretty much breeding resistant strains.

Well, the standard pattern of "Introduce cool character.....who will basically never do anything again" at least has a reason this time.

edited 8th Dec '14 10:30:10 AM by kiukiuclk

ShinyTsukkomi ( ! ) from a building with air conditioning, most likely. (Life not ruined yet)
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#3020: Dec 8th 2014 at 2:09:52 PM

I completely missed the part where they said Mom got some of the blood too. I thought it was just Yuuki for some reason. Still feels contrived for the sake of the story, but I'll take it.

Now to figure out how Dad kicked the bucket. I'm guessing he either contracted it before being aware that the transfusion was tainted (what horrible timing...) or he died from grief.

I don't know how Japanese medical insurance works, but the cost of medications for an entire family may have driven their livelihood into the ground.

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Ghost55 from Munich Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#3021: Dec 8th 2014 at 2:14:51 PM

Mom got the blood transfusion because she had a c-section and the birth went poorly.

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HanabiraKage …マジで? Since: Oct, 2011
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#3022: Dec 8th 2014 at 5:58:53 PM

[up][up] Why would the baby be getting the transfusion when it's the mom who had the c-section?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3023: Dec 8th 2014 at 6:23:51 PM

Well, if she had the transfusion during or before the procedure then it's possible for the baby to be affected by it (although during the procedure would be a tad unlikely since caesarians usually don't last long).

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Ghost55 from Munich Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
#3024: Dec 8th 2014 at 11:53:53 PM

[up][up] Babies can get HIV through their mother's breast milk.

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HanabiraKage …マジで? Since: Oct, 2011
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#3025: Dec 9th 2014 at 12:00:32 AM

[up] I'm thankful for the information, but that has nothing to do with what I posted. o.o

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