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Deadlock Clock: Aug 23rd 2012 at 11:59:00 PM
animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#26: Apr 1st 2012 at 9:30:20 PM

...argh...reading that page is painful. I need to clean it again.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
The Other Troper
#27: Apr 1st 2012 at 9:37:04 PM

If the marketing and writing still focus on a character, that would still count.

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#28: Apr 5th 2012 at 9:03:45 AM

Should we do anything to this page?

larynxist Aspiring Mentat from her mother`s basement Since: Apr, 2010
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#29: Apr 11th 2012 at 3:31:36 AM

It's a good name as is, but maybe renaming it with a more neutral word than "stealing" would help. And I also don't get why "squad" is in the name; a lot of examples are just one person.

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#30: Apr 11th 2012 at 6:20:52 AM

I think it's for alliterative appeal?

cthulhucalamari um...im a gobble you up? Since: Apr, 2012
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#31: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:28:56 AM

the problem with the trope is the title implies its simply about characters taking screen time away. And when characters you like loose screen time things tend to go bad.

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cthulhucalamari um...im a gobble you up? Since: Apr, 2012
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#33: Apr 18th 2012 at 5:42:41 AM

another problem with this trope is that it is very similar to the "Out of Focus" trope as when they become out focus it is frequently because of this trope

edited 18th Apr '12 5:43:15 AM by cthulhucalamari

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
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#35: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:04:32 AM

[up][up] They dont have to put the others Out of Focus they just got to get more focus than the others.

Like if something is episodic and focuses on one character at a time to lead the show in a 50 episode season Character A and C get a total of 10 ish episodes each focused on them and Character B gets 20 with the other 10 its a group thing where its more focuses on the entire group but its balanced across the entire run.

Nobody is quite Out of Focus, but B is in greater focus. (yes I am thinking of a specific example of this... well and her two expies.) It can be even more noticeable with a Red Oni, Blue Oni setup or a Five-Man Band.

Character Balanced Ensemble would be the way its done right.... so Unbalanced Ensemble?

edited 18th Apr '12 6:09:28 AM by Raso

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#36: Apr 18th 2012 at 6:17:23 AM

The description:"In short, when the author gets so incredibly fixated on a single character, family or group that he or she forgets that they have an incredibly diverse and powerful cast, many of whom are more interesting than the focus character (or at least that's what everyone will think when they're not getting screen-time). A handful of characters might have Story Arcs, while everyone else seems to lack any motivation whatsoever or is caught in an infinite loop." Hmm... " while everyone else seems to lack any motivation whatsoever or is caught in an infinite loop." sounds as Out of Focus.

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#37: Apr 18th 2012 at 9:51:09 AM

Spotlight Hog would increase the amount of bile we'll have to clean off the page, although maybe the description talking about how the creator is 'fixtated' and 'forgets the rest of the cast' might be why we have so much bile on i.

edited 18th Apr '12 9:51:59 AM by animeg3282

Treblain Not An Avatar Since: Nov, 2012
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#38: Apr 18th 2012 at 1:23:16 PM

Spotlight Hog sounds like an in-story character trope and might be mistaken for Drama Queen.

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#39: Apr 18th 2012 at 4:51:07 PM

[up] Or It's All About Me.

[up][up][up] Well right now that's the problem... Right now the description is the problem it is far too harsh and filled with hate.

It should have a better tone and about how a character takes center stage noticeably more often than others in an ensemble (Or get more face time than the MC.), there could be many reasons, more popular, the author likes them more, he has more ideas for that character, the MC was written more of just a POV Character etc. They do not have to throw the all other characters so far out that they go Out of Focus they just more focus. (they could throw one or more characters out of focus but it doesn't have to be.)

edited 18th Apr '12 4:53:07 PM by Raso

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animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#40: Apr 18th 2012 at 7:47:37 PM

The Spotlight-Stealing Squad are a character or group of characters who are more in focus than the titular or main characters for one or more story arcs. There are several reasons for this to occur: the creator may be writing a Myth Arc that centers around the In Focus characters, the creator may be inspired by the new characters and want to continue writing them, the characters may be fan favorites or the original plot may have been resolved and the creator might start writing side characters.

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I tried to make a description, but...

MagBas Mag Bas from In my house Since: Jun, 2009
#41: Apr 18th 2012 at 8:06:56 PM

[up]The description not implies that it is more focused than "the titular or main characters" specifically.

edited 18th Apr '12 8:08:24 PM by MagBas

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#42: Apr 18th 2012 at 10:25:16 PM

btw: should this have a RL section?

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#43: Apr 24th 2012 at 5:18:41 PM

[up]Honestly, I don't think there should be Real Life Sections in general for any trope, but that's just me.

I changed the laconic description to better discourage the negative connotation of the trope.

DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#44: Apr 24th 2012 at 7:19:46 PM

[up]Doesn't matter if you think that. It also pretends we are solely about fiction, when we have loads of non-fiction tropes.

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Fnu Since: Dec, 1969
#45: Apr 24th 2012 at 7:55:40 PM

I think the name is fine. It's the description that invited all the negativity. When a trope's description explicitly says "If left unchecked, expect fans to complain" then how is it any surprise that people are complaining?

animeg3282 Since: Jan, 2001
#46: Apr 24th 2012 at 9:24:20 PM

Yea, would it be ok with everyone if I clipped that sentence? Just a snip...

DoktorvonEurotrash Since: Jan, 2001
#47: Apr 25th 2012 at 1:45:27 AM

This really shouldn't have a real life section.

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#50: Jul 6th 2012 at 12:24:46 PM

animeg: Nobody will complain if you improve the description (removing negativity counts as improvement)...


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