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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#151: Oct 11th 2012 at 6:54:18 AM

Even Charlie'sAngels two?

edited 11th Oct '12 6:54:46 AM by joeyjojo

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#152: Oct 11th 2012 at 9:00:11 AM

[up] An improvement over the original, Demi notwithstanding.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#154: Oct 11th 2012 at 4:05:29 PM

^Then you're a better fan then me :)

Okay saw the second episode

, now we are getting a taste of what the show is going to be like and it's promising.

Tonight Holmes investigated a breakin/fatal shooting where the only person who could of done it has been in a coma for the last three days.

duh duh duh!

Earlier I complained about sherlock's two hour long tv movie format, but the I can honestly say I miss it. An hour (45 minutes seeing as this is created of a commercial station) just is not long enough to really set the mood and the show looks like it's going for the standard crime a week format. That said john lee miller and lucy liu have a good chemistry together despite the latter's role as a six week 'junkie sitter'£

. So hopefully we will see more of their companionship blossom. Right now their relationship is too 'naughty school boy and tightly strung schoolteacher' for my taste.

There's a great bit where JohnJoan finds Holmes's old violin and insists Holmes plays it for therapeutic recreation, Holmes's reaction is quite promptly burn it. It's funny but reassures the audience yes this is Sherlock Holmes and they are just not going to slap on the deerstalker just yet. Holmes still has to grow.

There is going to be a two week break but the preview promises our heroes will return to hunt a Heavy Rain styled child predator. Time will tell if it the writers can handle it well or not but it's good to see them taking chances with more adult concepts.

Four out five thumb ups. Will be waiting.

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edited 23rd Oct '12 1:54:40 AM by joeyjojo

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RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#155: Oct 12th 2012 at 8:27:13 AM

Just saw the second episode (I'm late, I know).

On the one hand, I'll stand by my Dorothy L Sayers comparison — I'm not sure I can articulate it, but I get that sort of vibe off the series. I think that might be part of why it feels less like a Sherlock Holmes adaptation.

On the other hand, my argument that the murders in this series were more plausible just got less plausible. [lol]

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#156: Oct 12th 2012 at 9:07:44 AM

To be fair it's a very different format.

Sherlock never really was a whodunit, the focus was more about the intellect battle with Holms adversities then 'solving the case'. The how and the why of the crime was secondly to holmes's deduction of it. In Sherlock the characters and their abilities maybe be incredible but the story remains grounded to reality. In elementary the story lines are larger then life, but it's the characters who remain reasonable.

edited 12th Oct '12 2:51:45 PM by joeyjojo

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#157: Oct 12th 2012 at 10:11:07 AM

Addendum on the second episode: there's no reason for Yvette to make a miraculous recovery immediately after she was done murdering — were I her, I'd wait a few days to obscure the correlation. That said, Sherlock wasn't necessarily wrong about her intentions.

[up] I have to admit: I stopped watching the BBC Sherlock after the third episode. I felt like it was moving away from the stuff I liked from the first episode.

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#158: Oct 12th 2012 at 10:14:36 AM

He might have been just saying that to convince her sister not to help her, and not have actually known whether or not she intended to kill her sister.

edited 12th Oct '12 10:14:48 AM by deathpigeon

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#159: Oct 12th 2012 at 3:16:20 PM

[up][up]The later episodes never really did recapture a study in pinks sense of gritty realism or atmosphere of menace. sad but I'll stay on topic.

One reviewer rather oddly criticised the show saying it was obvious which twin committed murder when is came out she had been sleeping with a married man. There's no plot reason for this it's just a rule on us tv apparently.

edited 12th Oct '12 3:18:39 PM by joeyjojo

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#160: Oct 12th 2012 at 7:53:09 PM

...weird.

Did they name three other examples? Maybe it should be a trope page.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#161: Oct 12th 2012 at 8:35:23 PM

No but I'm sure we have a trope for it some where...

edited 12th Oct '12 8:36:33 PM by joeyjojo

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#162: Oct 13th 2012 at 3:36:31 AM

Good Adultery, Bad Adultery, maybe?

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#163: Oct 19th 2012 at 9:50:51 PM

Oh my, I just fell in love with this series. Seriously. I freaking love it! I don't know why, it's just really great. And we're on episode three. That's some sign of good storytelling.

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#164: Oct 22nd 2012 at 11:12:21 AM

Just got around to watching the newest episode and it's gotta be said, this version of Sherlock is far more likable than Cumberbatch's, in a grow-on-you sort of way though he hasn't formed the deep bond with his Watson that C!Sherlock has just yet.

RobinZimm Since: Jan, 2001
#165: Oct 22nd 2012 at 1:42:34 PM

You know, I wasn't as fond of the third episode. It felt shallower, and Watson had a lot smaller part in the investigation of the crime.

*checks IMDB*

Sure enough, the third episode was written by a different writer. I hope this is not a trend.

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#166: Oct 22nd 2012 at 4:43:53 PM

Oh fuck, I forgot to watch last week. Anything interesting happen?

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#167: Oct 22nd 2012 at 6:42:32 PM

[up] ...I have no idea how to respond to that.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#169: Oct 23rd 2012 at 5:06:52 AM

[up][up][up]Might as well review in full again.


The latest episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent Elementary starts off a with a small boy by enticed into a car by an unseen man who leaves behind a bouquet of balloons for his parents ominously saying “thank you” on each and every one of them. The action then coldly cuts to a sleep depraved Homes looking at the boys photo on file full of dead and missing children with news of yet another girl has been abducted by the 'Balloon Man'. Edgy CBS.

Interviewing the latest victim's parents Holmes (being a colossal alcoholic) picks holes in the father's story of being out at bodegas buying plonk as his bottle of wine has the price tag on the bottom of the bottle and not on the cap. And bodegas always places it on the cap, as any true connoisseur of affordable wine would know.

This -Of course- leads to a mistress, who has nothing to do with the plot other than the fact she saw a brown van speed through the stop sign that she was parked near. Holmes correctly deduces that the van is belongs to the Balloon Man’s and searching the street for a conveniently placed home security camera or a streetwalker with eidetic memory who may of saw something. Holmes finds a parked car that scraped the brown van leaving blue and white paint flecks.

Realising the Balloon Man must be driving a repainted decommissioned police van. They comb the city untill they find it. Only to discover in a Shocking Swerve that it's not the balloon man at the wheel but the first original victim Adam (the boy from earlier) who has been brainwashed by the Balloon man into being his assistant in murder. Adam has been emotionally scarred, and it is now Holmes’ job to break through to him. Despite it clearly being the job of… you know… a child psychologist or a actual police officer.

All in all this is an intriguing and well-produced episode. While it's subject matter and take on Stockholm Syndrome is questionable it never the less makes engaging viewing watching Holmes trying to reach out to a damaged human being to stop a mercy less killer but which one is whicn?. While the plot twists are rather obvious to anyone who has watched a tv police procedural before, the story is reasonably handled for prime time board-cast TV and the talented acting of John lee miller and guest star Johnny Simmons as Adam.

lucy Liu is the episode weakest point, again. Who's character's role in catching a vicious child murderer involves consist mainly of doing some leg squats in high heals >_> . But there continues to be signs of greater character development to come, so hopefully we will see her and Holmes grows as friends, battle criminals, taking on cases as equals and solving the shit out of them. But as of now she is resigned to the role of Sherlock's soundboard.

All in all, good viewing. Four out of five smiley faces. ☺☺☺☺

edited 23rd Oct '12 5:10:07 AM by joeyjojo

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#170: Oct 23rd 2012 at 4:20:01 PM

So, now Sherlock becoming more open, or revealing more about his life, or Watson about her life? Or anyt sign of a Moriarty?

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#171: Oct 23rd 2012 at 4:40:34 PM

[up]It's mostly just the relationship between Sherlock and Watson growing. She's making him respect her - which isn't particularly easy.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#172: Oct 26th 2012 at 3:58:45 AM

With the last episode descenting into the dark territory of child predators I was starting to get worried if the writers knew what direction they want to take the show. Tonight's Rat Race proves such fears were unfounded. They really found the feet with the show.

Tonight when lucy liu is worried when Holmes never back it from school on time she decided to go to the police. Rather then let the misunderstanding that she and him are a couple stand she go and breaks his confident that Holmes is a no good dirty junkie.

What a Bitch. [[conti]]

edited 26th Oct '12 11:18:32 AM by joeyjojo

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#173: Oct 26th 2012 at 10:36:59 AM

I like the ending of the last episode. Holmes plays off Gregson quite well.

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#174: Oct 26th 2012 at 3:07:23 PM

And again more proof that this is a kinder Holmes than Cumberbatch's, the scene at the restaurant where he sent the bottle of wine to to the the table where the guy had just proposed to his girlfriend, his sincere outrage at the bankers from the meltdowns a few years back and the deepening bond between him and Watson.

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#175: Oct 26th 2012 at 4:37:14 PM

This episode is why I like this Sherlock. His arrogance and drug addiction was a serious problem but he made up for it, and Watson actually figured something out.

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