#77: Nov 25th 2012 at 10:01:43 PM
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Argh, does that mean we have to replace The Lancer with Number Two?
Nocturna
Since: May, 2011
#78: Nov 25th 2012 at 10:43:20 PM
No, The Lancer is the foil to The Leader. He or she is also often the Number Two, but not necessarily.
However, this is irrelevant to the topic at hand, which is The Hero.
acrobox
Since: Nov, 2010
#79: Nov 25th 2012 at 11:05:50 PM
I thought we were pretty much fine with Marqs description
"champion of good from either a narrative or an in-universe POV, whether or not they're actually The Leader of the good faction(s)"
maybe add in that they're typically the driving force of the plot either by being The Face, The Chosen One or having It's Personal motivations for the main conflict. Basically that they are The Champion for the plot as a whole.
acrobox
Since: Nov, 2010
#80: Dec 3rd 2012 at 9:44:22 PM
are we done here?
#81: Jan 26th 2013 at 1:48:53 AM
Stale with expired clock, locking.
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The Lancer is not lieutenant to The Leader.
The Lancer is foil to The Hero.
Number Two is lieutenant to The Leader.
edited 25th Nov '12 7:29:01 PM by acrobox