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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#1: Feb 16th 2012 at 9:21:28 PM

Tropers often ignore or don't even know about the big issues being discussed in this wiki. Even if it's on the Wiki Headlines, they probably won't look at it. Hell, I don't bother to look at it most of the time.

That's why I'm proposing that the mods and admins have the ability to send public messages to every contributor. It forces us to at least know that something is going on.

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#2: Feb 16th 2012 at 10:38:38 PM

They can't do that already?

Yes, this feature sounds like a good idea. Then the mods could announce, for example, "Fast Eddie has declared stock phrases are not tropes and will not be accepted for new tropes." and people might actually notice.

edited 16th Feb '12 10:39:24 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#3: Feb 16th 2012 at 10:40:23 PM

Do we really need something like this? I mean, this is catering to people who are too lazy to look at the wiki headlines box. It's right there. And it's not small either.

edited 16th Feb '12 10:40:49 PM by ThatHuman

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polutropon Since: Dec, 2011
#4: Feb 16th 2012 at 11:07:18 PM

[up]Do not make UI decision based on machismo.

Really, don't.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#5: Feb 17th 2012 at 12:01:46 AM

[up][up]Unfortunately, a lot of people are that lazy, but they should at least be informed.

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#6: Feb 17th 2012 at 8:54:16 AM

It's right there. Seriously, if somebody actually cared about what's going on, surely they'd have noticed it? This looks like complaining to your city council that you didn't notice a new law in effect because there wasn't anybody going around and shoving announcement leaflets in everybody's faces, even though there were already news reports. Or something.

edited 17th Feb '12 9:02:11 AM by ThatHuman

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battosaijoe Since: Jan, 2010
#7: Feb 17th 2012 at 2:29:14 PM

All hyperbole aside, I think it's a good idea. There are a lot of users who log on like once or twice every month or so, if not less often, and never go to the fora, and thus miss a lot of changes to wiki policy. The headlines get shuffled out as more news happens, so things can be missed. Remember, we're speaking from the viewpoints of people who log in almost every day. There are plenty of people who don't, and for those, this would be useful to pass along messages, such as the renaming of the Awesome Moment and Awesome Music, the renaming of the You Fail X Forever tropes, that sort of thing.

[down] Much more succinctly expressed than my keyboard pounding. xD

edited 17th Feb '12 3:43:13 PM by battosaijoe

ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#8: Feb 17th 2012 at 3:11:53 PM

Practically speaking, it is more efficient and less annoying to make sure even the lazy and rarely-logged-in editors are informed, than to spend hours and hours of our lives cleaning up after their mistakes.

EDIT: And we shouldn't condemn those who rarely log in, either.

edited 3rd Mar '12 2:51:00 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#9: Mar 3rd 2012 at 2:26:36 PM

So, basically, what these ([up],[up][up]) two said.

edited 3rd Mar '12 2:26:44 PM by Ekuran

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Mar 3rd 2012 at 3:12:28 PM

I have to Nth this request. Wiki Headlines stuff and other "not-every-day-but-super-important" things could be announced over a public PM. They aren't exactly hard to miss.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Mar 4th 2012 at 1:30:42 PM

"It's right there. Seriously, if somebody actually cared about what's going on, surely they'd have noticed it?"

The fact is some people edit, and actually don't care to look. It sucks, but since we can't magically change human nature, we have to just work with it.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#12: Mar 22nd 2012 at 2:03:41 AM

So...would any of you mods mind it if you chip in?

edited 22nd Mar '12 2:05:08 AM by Ekuran

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#13: Mar 22nd 2012 at 2:18:19 PM

This sounds essentially like a reminder PM about the newsletter being published. Might be useful if the Trope Report was published with a little more rigor. Meaning a regular publication date and some editorial cross-checking on article quality.

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#14: Mar 22nd 2012 at 3:24:53 PM

That...is a much better idea than my own. I'm all for it.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#15: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:25:48 PM

So...anyone else think we should implement this?

ThatHuman someone from someplace Since: Jun, 2010
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#16: Apr 22nd 2012 at 2:40:44 PM

Well, the idea was pretty much shot down in another thread.

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#17: Apr 22nd 2012 at 4:23:25 PM

Was actually referring to Fast Eddie's idea.

Besides, the original idea is still valid, as the mods can still limit Public Messages for big things (in response to your first link). The second link's issue can be solved by having Public Messages be in a different format from normal PMs, like implementing FE's idea, but instead of using a reminder PM, they'd just send us the direct newsletter of Trope Report (with it actually saying something like "Here's your weekly Trope Report" instead of the standard PM notification.

edited 22nd Apr '12 4:24:33 PM by Ekuran

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#18: Feb 16th 2016 at 11:49:32 AM

Bumping to gauge interest.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#19: Feb 16th 2016 at 1:26:11 PM

I support this suggestion. Too many forums for me to count implement such a feature.

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