All-Purpose Nasuverse Fanfiction Thread

So I'm re-writing parts of my yet-unpublished Undertale crossover, and one of the bigger changes (alongside Shirou accidentally killing Toriel in a panic due to misinterpreting her test, and being forced to reload from his last save), is the battle against Mettaton being a Toku-esque live show, complete with Mettaton being dressed like a sentai villain and Shirou getting his own henshin costume device courtesy of Alphys (because of course she'd be messing around with something like that, probably for Undyne) - it's basically Alphys' idea, as she appeals to Mettaton's desire for a show that's dramatic and action-packed, and while in canon he plans to kill the fallen child like in canon, he also gives Alphys a front-row seat to the action out of apology for lying to her (albeit shackled so she doesn't interfere).

My main problem is figuring out what exactly Shirou and Alphys would be talking about in terms of contemporary Toku/Sentai shows, considering the fic probably takes place around 2001 (the original F/SN takes place in 2006 and the fic starts just after Kiritsugu's death), especially considering Kamen Rider only got a few movies in the 90s, and Alphys has been getting her material from the garbage dump, so what she does have access to would be a tad old.

Edited by Cronosonic on Feb 12th 2019 at 11:23:32 PM

Oh my God, Insane Gudako just updated! Insane Gudako is one of my favorite Nasuverse fanfic ever, just for its sheer mix of fun, insanity, and heartwarming. I recommended you guys give this fanfic a read over if you have time.

Edited by VeryMelon on Mar 10th 2019 at 8:40:22 AM

I'm trying to come up with a title for an FGO fanfic taking place in an AU where Chaldea is a transworld organization, with its central headquarters located in an artificial transworld realm constructed by a herculean undertaking of long-dead magi (with possible involvement by a version of Zelretch).

*walks in ten days late with Starbucks* Saying that Chaldea is a transworld organization says very little about what the fic is actually about in a way that would help with titling it. Especially since canon Chaldea is always sending people to meddle in alternate timelines and pocket universes and so forth, it's not clear to me how the change in the organization's nature really affects it.

Sorry, my intent is to justify having dozens of Masters coexisting in the same organization by turning it into something like a big Heroes "R" Us group — the best way for me to describe it is something like a cross between Hogwarts School, RWBY's Huntsman Academies, Chivalry Of A Failed Knight's mage-knight training schools, and Pokémon. It would be an excellent setting for a story revolving around a supposed Un-Sorcerer who is ridiculed and bullied by all students and staff alike in Chaldea, only to shock and/or outrage their persecutors when their first summoned Servant is an incredibly rare and powerful one that by all rights should've been impossible for the MC to summon.

On a different note, I'm working on transforming Counter Guardian TOHSAKA's concept into a proper Servant (something that someone else had tried their hand at) by taking her thinly veiled Bayonetta vibes and turning this parody version of Rin into an actual Bayonetta expy... and I'm wondering if incorporating Bayonetta deriving her magical powers from having a pact with a powerful demon into TOHSAKA's powerset would make her qualify as a Foreigner.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 21st 2019 at 4:11:48 PM

I mean, having a pact with Alaya isn't all that different from having a pact with a demon, from a certain point of view. Hell, I'd argue that Bayonetta's pact with Madama Butterfly is more in Bayonetta's favor than any pact with Alaya ever was.

Edited by Zelenal on Jun 22nd 2019 at 2:20:44 PM

From what I understand, though, and Alaya isn't exactly an "entity" the same way that anything from ants to the Outer Gods of the Nasuverse (i.e. the ones who are the reason Foreigners can even exist^note Ultra Heroine Z is the sole exception so far because it eventually becomes obvious that she was shoehorned into the class for it being the only one that remotely fits her (on account of her being an "alien" from another universe); this is reflected by her Foreigner-exclusive class skill being a meager D rank.) are. It's more or less a "supercomputer" that is composed of the psychic emanations of humanity, not truly capable of any sort of "thought"; it's more comparable to a lesser form of the God-Machine from Demon: The Descent, or a vastly powered-up form of the VIs from Mass Effect. And a contract with Alaya merely gives you powers; the "will" of Alaya itself doesn't mind-control Counter Guardians to do its bidding (otherwise we wouldn't have had EMIYA trying to kill his past self instead of doing his job in FSN^note IIRC the Heaven's Feel route has him suspect that his summoning was at least partly due to the threat posed by whatever it is that's creating the Shadows, which we eventually learn to be the corrupted Greater Grail (specifically, Angra Mainyu), whose awakening will cause The End of the World as We Know It.), it just sends new ones (or tries one of its other tools) if the desired outcome isn't achieved.

A Foreigner on the other hand is essentially the subject of Demonic Possession by their patron Eldritch Abomination, though it need not be entirely successful.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 22nd 2019 at 12:56:45 PM

I don't know shit about Bayonetta so I'll be no help there. As for titling your other thing, my first impulse is to go with a cheesy light novel title like I was Bullied For Having No Talent As a Magus Until I Summoned the Strongest Servant because I'm a smart-ass. My second, more useful impulse is that if you're gonna have a story about being a great Master you can always work a Master pun into the title and use something like Master of Their Domain.

Bayonetta is at her simplest a Hot Witch version of Devil May Cry's Dante, only she's a pure human who derives her power from pacts with demons (with this particular one being far more closely associated with her), a lot more refined and elegant, fights with four handguns (two on her feet), and her entire repertoire of magic uses her absurdly long Rapunzel Hair (normally physics-defyingly compressed into an ordinary beehive) to manifest anything from body-sized demonic limbs to multi-story-tall kaiju.

Oh, and her outfit is made out of the self-same hair too, so the more powerful her move, the more of her skin gets exposed, with her strongest attacks practically leaving her butt-naked save for strategically placed "streams" of her moving hair.

Did I mention that her fighting style is very sexually suggestive with heaps of BDSM?

Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 29th 2019 at 6:41:40 PM

I'm trying to come up with a variation of the Unlimited Blade Works chant for my Bayonetta-fied TŌSAKA. The idea is that in the decade(s) before she earned the qualifications for being summoned as a Heroic Spirit / Counter Guardian, she spent a lot of time and effort trying to understand and even kinda reverse-engineer Shirou's Reality Marble, because Zelretch had for some reason or the other challenged her to create an artificial version of an existing Reality Marble as part of his weird "curriculum" for his newest protege, and while she figured out most of the theory, she was only able to finalize the "formula" and actually put into practice after the huge power boost she gained from her contracted archdemoness years later ^note Long story short: Broken Masquerade scenario due to a much worse version of Fate and UBW route's Association attempt to revive the Holy Grail, leading to a post-apocalyptic world where Holy Grail Wars keep being set up and backfiring horribly by various actors around the world. Rin is stuck fighting a seemingly hopeless war to end all these Holy Grail Wars once and for all, and she has had to suffer the deaths of both Sakura and Shirou early on in this new age; it's so bad that she had to learn how to use guns just to survive (yeah, she's not that much of a Walking Techbane now)..

This TŌSAKA's "recreation" of Shirou's Unlimited Blade Works isn't a true recreation per se, though. Her version, called "Unlimited Weave Works", does not specialize in swords (and whatever the user could interpret as a "sword", albeit at increasingly greater difficulty the less justifiable the interpretation is), but rather is more of a Jack of All Trades (i.e. any object)... which would've made it inferior, except that with the boost from her demonic patroness, she's just one step away from being a Master of All when it comes to the quality of projected objects. Oh, and she either uses her hair as a medium for the magical energy that is used as the actual crafting material, or she's literally crafting the objects out of her hair (which is absurdly long when de-compressed and, thanks to demonic blessings, can grow both rapidly and infinitely), hence the "Weave" in the name.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jul 11th 2019 at 2:59:55 PM

I highly doubt Tohsaka would be able to create a Reality Marble. Even Medea can't create one with the closest she can get being a sort of alternate world rather than an actualization of her inner world and it takes her a great deal of time and resources. It'd probably make more sense to have it be a powerful Bounded Field with properties similar to but distinct from a Reality Marble like Time Alter and Aestus Domus Aurea.

As for the power itself, I'm not overly fond of it. UBW is already crazy powerful in its specific field (which becomes painfully evident in crossovers) and you're giving Tohsaka something that's even more powerful since it can create any object. I have a lot of other problems with it from a nitty-gritty lore standpoint but more recent entries in the Fate franchise have mostly stopped caring about those anyway so whatever.

Edited by Zelenal on Jul 13th 2019 at 4:42:08 AM

There are other ways of making a super strong Rin without aping Emiya's only thing. Why does no one ever make her better at the Second Magic?

Because that risks Ruby coming in and derailing everything.

People complain about Zelrecht being portrayed as a troll who just does random stuff For the Lulz... but given we've never actually met the man himself and that it's an accurate summary of Ruby's personality, its not hard to see where people are coming from.

My TŌSAKA did pretty much master the Second Magic by the time she was raised to Heroic Spirit / Counter Guardian status — which she couldn't have done without the demonic contract giving her a vastly extended lifespan ^note This is something that she eventually came to regret; who wants to relive the pain of seeing people you've come to cherish greatly die in horrible ways over and over again, all while fighting a seemingly Hopeless War? She's basically going through what Sailor Cosmos had suffered, now that I think about it.. Naturally, that world's iteration of Magical Ruby did get involved... and both Magical Ruby and TŌSAKA adamantly refuse to get involved with each other ever again while refusing to divulge the specifics for why, though it might be telling that the former's reaction to being pressed on the subject is more or less extremely fearful while the latter's reactions to the same is a mix of embarrassment and rage. Also, any incarnation of Magical Ruby is an automatic Berserk Button for TŌSAKA, and she's very protective of she sees as being victimized by Magical Ruby (perhaps rightly so), like Prismaverse Illya.

the kind of otherworldly being

Edited by MarqFJA on Jul 14th 2019 at 7:12:14 PM

Okay, see, when you just remove the entire post I just get confusioned and wonder what the devil this guy said that merited a thump.

Guys, I vaguely remember coming across a one-shot crackfic years ago that escalates the "Shirou tries jumping a high bar to no avail" event so that it's not just Rin and Sakura who saw him that day, but also other Fate, non-Fate Nasuverse, and even non-Nasuverse characters who all fell for his memetic "Harem Protagonist EX" Skill, ending with him only realizing he attracted a crowd after he was preparing to leave the grounds. Anyone got a link to it, its title, or even the author's name?

Edited by MarqFJA on Sep 11th 2019 at 4:13:18 PM

I think I might have read that one as well.

I have no clue.

It's one of OM's, I recall.

You wouldn't happen to remember its title, would you?

Here, I think? https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13193685/1/Happy-Birthday-Fate Closest thing I could find.

Nope, not even close. The high bar thing is only briefly mentioned as a Plot Device for defeating Goetia in an absurd manner.

Okay, so in the fanfic I'm wanting to write, the Church is involved as its own faction in the war. Since normally people that aren't mages don't have Magic Circuits, how do you guys think that priests would become involved as Masters in a Holy Grail War?

I always assumed at least some of the Executors have magic circuits and utalized at least basic reinforcement in combat. Is that incorrect?

I'm not sure. Kirei has magical circuits and that's remarked on in the wiki as being an oddity for someone with a non-magical lineage but the Church's Executors use Sacraments, which idk is something like Magecraft that might require Magic Circuits.