Apparently has misuse.: Noblewomans Laugh

I was wondering that myself. The ratio's too small.

I think it was a little hasty for calling, specifically for that reason, and there was just a bump for votes.

I don't think this is safe to close yet. It was just over 2:1 and now it's under, and before that was way under. Could we reopen it?

Seems that I made a bad call here. Unfortunately, Crowners can't be re-opened (at least by me) so we have to find another way to go about this.

edited 19th Mar '12 3:42:51 PM by BestOf

We could ask Eddie to un-call the crowner.

I think uncalling crowners is possible, but only through the admin. However, I'm not sure if the outcome will change.

I suspect that many people voted against because the suggested replacement was Ojou Laugh.

I notified the other mods about my mistake. We'll see what we can do.

My apologies for messing up.

edited 19th Mar '12 3:44:21 PM by BestOf

Mistakes can happen. But AFAIK only The Great Eddie can uncall a crowner.

Don't worry. The staff has enough on their hands that a couple of mistakes may slip by.

Un-called.

Thank you.

In the meantime, let's brainstorm some names. If the Ojou Laugh is not well-liked (I'm not particularly fond of it myself), do we have other ideas?

I'm not sure we should be too keen to keep just the word laugh in the title since the pose seems to be just as much a part of the trope.

Noblewoman's Laugh and Pose?

We already established that the pose is not required. It's common, but not universal, and the laugh also can be used when the character isn't even visible.

For some reason the crowner icon doesn't show up, and isn't caught in the filter.

It's a buggie. It's come up before.

Any other name ideas? Noblewomans Ohohohoho?

...Wait, that's terrible.

I would prefer if the name didn't contain Japanese terms like Oyou; I don't think we can assume people actually know what that means.

This is a Japanese cultural trope. It ONLY occurs in Japanese or Japanese inspired works. Thus having a Japanese word in the title is perfectly acceptable as per our trope naming guidelines.

Well, I never said anything about guidelines or acceptability.

edited 20th Mar '12 9:27:08 AM by Spark9

The problem with giving Japanese specific tropes entirely English names is that they convince English speakers that they know what the trope is about and often times they cut out connotation from the terms. It seems to cause Trope Decay on true Japanese only tropes.

Again, Shrill Haughty Laugh is my suggestion.

edited 20th Mar '12 11:30:21 AM by DragonQuestZ

That's pretty good.

It's not necessarily shrill, though. Depends on the character and their voice pitch.

I wouldn't be against Haughty Oujo Laugh or something; this is supposed to be associated with The Oujo, anyway, so it's not like it's going to come up in Western media unless they're being animesque.

Can we stick to English words?

Also, isn't this something that live action works in Japan would do?

We can, the question is if we should. And yes, live action works can do this, why is that relevant?