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TheSollerodFascist Since: Dec, 1969
#1: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:38:41 PM

How may of you folks honestly use the TV Tropes True Art thinking and defining derogatively?

Also, I appreciate Hans Richter's Rhythmus series as a notable bit of cubism on film. You wouldn't bully Picasso like that, would you :'(

BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:40:37 PM

I don't use it. I think it's anti-intellectual and shows little understanding of the works it's mocking.

edited 20th Jan '12 6:40:59 PM by BobbyG

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#3: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:45:32 PM

I'm not even sure I understand it.

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#4: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:50:26 PM

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#5: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:54:30 PM

(*Looks At True Art Page*)

WAT DA FUQ

I DON WANNA BE ON THIS WIKI ANYMORE

Seriously, that page should be deleted.

edited 20th Jan '12 6:55:12 PM by inane242

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#6: Jan 20th 2012 at 6:55:15 PM

It made me start thinking about my ideas and beliefs about art because it was so obviously wrong, so it has a tiny bit of usefulness.

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#7: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:04:59 PM

@ Parable: It's half tropers completely missing the point of acclaimed works of art and half Complaining About Works You Think Are Overrated. The lolrandom page description is presumably meant to parody modern/postmodern/abstract art, which as this forum has taught me, are all clearly the same thing.

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inane242 Anwalt der Verdammten from A B-Movie Bildungsroman Since: Nov, 2010
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#8: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:07:14 PM

....Seriously, that needs to be fixed. How do I go about doing this?

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BobbyG vigilantly taxonomish from England Since: Jan, 2001
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#9: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:20:50 PM

Probably TRS and propose a cut. If we wanted to seriously improve the pages we might start an SE thread about it, but I don't see the point because the pages are fundamentally ignorant.

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#10: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:25:14 PM

Define whats wrong with it, first of all. I think Bobby's "half completely missing the point of acclaimed works of art and half Complaining About Works You Think Are Overrated." is a good place to start.

I don't even like "modern/postmodern/abstract art" but there isn't really a reason to make fun of it.

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#11: Jan 20th 2012 at 7:50:33 PM

Can I get some help doing this? (*Has Never made a TRS thread before*)

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#12: Jan 20th 2012 at 8:26:57 PM

I thought they were being sarcastic and just pretending not to get it.

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#14: Jan 20th 2012 at 9:32:45 PM

—reads OP—

—gives Bobby a brohighfivefist or whatever it is that the kids do today—

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#15: Jan 20th 2012 at 9:56:20 PM

I'd totally spearhead this effort, but I have vowed never to go into the Wiki part of the forum again, so I can't really help.

I agree that the "True Art" tropes are dumb, as presented.

edited 20th Jan '12 10:00:42 PM by Flyboy

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#16: Jan 20th 2012 at 10:52:19 PM


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#17: Jan 21st 2012 at 11:32:29 AM

implying that it is may be

The article's locked, so I can't edit away the grammar fail.

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#18: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:03:15 PM

I think the Trope itself is fine as is. It is, after all, describing something that occurs fairly often in media. Maybe the examples in the various pages could do with a cull, though.

Which is the whole point. Whatever you think is or is not true art doesn't matter in the least.

Hell, I've seen it happen plenty of times in real life, especially on the internerdz. The Creative Writing Society at my university were True Art Is Angsty personified.

edited 21st Jan '12 12:08:46 PM by InverurieJones

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#19: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:37:49 PM

I've seen this page on the wiki before, but I don't think I ever read it before this cleanup effort started.

*ventures to the Internet Archive*

WHAT IN GOD'S NAME IS THIS

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wuggles Since: Jul, 2009
#20: Jan 21st 2012 at 12:48:33 PM

Well the consensus seems to be that the trope should be limited to in-universe examples. I think that's the best way to go.

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