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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#14276: Jan 2nd 2017 at 10:11:53 PM

So during my basic training, i got to fire 38 rounds with K2.

Zero-in shooting: In each try i had to fir 3 rounds three time and if any set of three lands in the center circle, it was a pass. I passed that in my second try, which actually made me one of the better shooters because most made it in third or fourth try.

Qualifying test: targets popped out of 100, 200, and 250 range, 20 times total. I had to fire 20 rounds and hit 12 to pass.

I passed that one with flying colors, hitting 17 targets in first try (half the people passed in second try). That made me the best shooter in my squad and top 10% in my entire company. cool

I actually remembered to squeeze the trigger rather than pulling it. I even channeled Private Jackson and prayed during each round. [lol]

Oh man. My first experience with gun was almost orgasmic. I loved my rifle and my rifle loved me back. smile

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14277: Jan 3rd 2017 at 3:47:20 AM

When I shoot, I typically catch myself mentally reciting the lyrics to "Tiny Bubbles".

I had an instructor in Basic who liked to sing it as a marching song.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#14278: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:45:41 AM

@ pwiegle

I suppose you could, but it's a long-obsolete system. Today's machine guns have much higher rates of fire, and eat ammo like popcorn. With a 30-round strip-feed, you'd spend more time reloading than shooting.

Disintegrating-link belt-feed is much more practical. Belts usually come packaged in 100-round increments, but you can snap them together and have any amount you please in one continuous length.

But what about for submachine guns?

Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
#14279: Jan 3rd 2017 at 10:01:38 AM

Is there anything a strip feed can do that a magazine can't already do better for a submachine gun?

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#14280: Jan 3rd 2017 at 11:29:54 AM

This of course not getting into the fact that submachine guns are becoming obsolete with this recent trend of ultra compact carbines and PDWs. Like the AKS-74u for example.

edited 3rd Jan '17 12:55:50 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14281: Jan 3rd 2017 at 12:49:05 PM

[up][up]For one thing, stripper clips are much more useful for loading magazines than magazines are. [lol]

Every time I've been to the firing range to qualify, they've issued us our ammo in bandoliers stuffed with 10-round clips of 5.56, which we would use with a speedloader to load our magazines.

It is occasionally amusing to mention being given clips of ammo for our M4s just to watch people on the internet twitch out and try to correct me.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#14282: Jan 3rd 2017 at 6:11:35 PM

AFP: Well until you realize your being given clips for magazines not the rifle itself.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14283: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:00:28 PM

Ultimately, they are for the rifle.

Well, ultimately they're for the target, if you want to get down to it.

pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#14284: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:09:34 PM

A strip-fed submachine gun? You gotta be shitting me...

And don't confuse a strip-magazine with a stripper clip. A stripper clip is for replenishing a magazine, whether said magazine is detachable or integral to the gun.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#14285: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:24:30 PM

AFP: Ultimately all true lol.

pwiegle: Call me crazy but I swear I saw an experimental SMG that operated like that but it never saw use because the mechanism was too clumsy.

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#14286: Jan 3rd 2017 at 7:40:05 PM

[up]Experimental? That, I can believe. But then again, half of "experimental" is "mental."

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#14287: Jan 3rd 2017 at 8:37:32 PM

Like I said it never saw use. I could also be mistaken that it was a proto-type SMG given this is one of those back of the brain kind of memories.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#14288: Jan 3rd 2017 at 10:08:26 PM

With the end of 2016, incident reports reveal that toddlers have now shot a person in the US every week for 2 consecutive years.

No, it wasn't a robbery.

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#14289: Jan 3rd 2017 at 10:13:44 PM

These toddlers are totally murderous man.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#14290: Jan 3rd 2017 at 11:08:14 PM

Guns don't kill people, toddlers kill people.

edited 3rd Jan '17 11:10:22 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
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#14291: Jan 3rd 2017 at 11:53:12 PM

He took my nose, I took his life

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#14292: Jan 4th 2017 at 12:24:20 AM

No, dad, I am not ready for weaning off of the bottle!

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Gjallarhorn Eli from Why did I move to Detroit again? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
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#14294: Jan 7th 2017 at 6:37:59 PM

That movie looks fucking stupid as shit.

But, I went to the range/some dude's backyard today, and I still have my fundamentals. Shivering too much to really be accurate, but I was grouping about three inches low on the target at 20 yards, so just right for my rifle.

I have this mystical skill in the infantry called "typing" First Civ Div, but fuck you once a grunt always disgruntled.
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#14295: Jan 12th 2017 at 5:36:31 PM

Smithsonian Magazine: Department of Defense Calls for Biodegradable, Seed-Planting Ammo

Every year, the U.S. Army uses hundreds of thousands of rounds of bullets for training purposes. That means plenty of metallic waste—refuse that can take centuries to break down. But one day, that training trash could turn into environmental treasure. As PC Mag’s Matthew Humphries reports, the Army wants to take that ammo and use it to plant seeds.

The Department of Defense recently made a request for biodegradable, seed-planting training ammunition, reports Humphries. The document lays out a plan to replace the current components used in training rounds with biodegradable materials that contain seeds that “grow environmentally friendly plants that remove soil contaminants." The report also notes, "animals should be able to consume the plants without any ill effects."

If the plan ever comes to fruition, it could help reverse the environmental damage wrought by Army training. The ammunition the Army seeks to replace with the biodegradable bullets include everything from mortars to artillery rounds—materials that, while ranging in size, can cause significant environmental contamination. The Army suggests that potential manufacturers use biodegradable polymers like those found in modern-day compostable plastics for the bullets.

It’s hard to pick up empty shells, especially in the field, and often cases and materials end up buried beneath the ground. There, they leach out chemicals that can contaminate soil and make their way into groundwater. The Army’s concept is to use the ammunition to, in effect, clean itself up thanks to seeds embedded inside the ammo that will eventually sprout when the structure biodegrades.

Wondering how the seeds will last long enough for their packaging to break apart? The Army has an answer for that: newly bioengineered seeds developed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. At its Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory, the Corps has already demonstrated seeds bioengineered not to germinate for several months. By the time they’re ready to grow, they’ll be inside the soil where they belong and presumably ready to sprout.

Despite the Army’s use of so much ammunition, it does have controls and guidelines in place that discourage the waste of training ammo. But even if the Army does eliminate the physical remnants of future training munitions, past training efforts have had an indelible effect on the environment. For decades, the Army has attempted to remediate and restore sites contaminated with hazardous chemicals from training facilities, but its efforts are far from complete. There’s no telling how long it will take to clean up the environmental effects of past training efforts—or whether research will someday yield a bullet that can biodegrade. Maybe, though, the Army of the future will do Earth a favor even as it prepares for war.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#14296: Jan 12th 2017 at 5:45:44 PM

So now it will be blood and spent shell casings that will make the grass grow. [lol]

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TairaMai rollin' on dubs from El Paso Tx Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Mu
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#14297: Jan 12th 2017 at 8:25:47 PM

There is a species of pine tree that uses the heat from forest fires to melt the pine tar in it's pine cones. Start with those seeds or similar species.

Most training rounds have low explosives. A training bomb got dropped in the Sandia Mountains due to it falling off an NM Air Guard A-7 back in The '90s. Less powder than a couple of shotgun shells. Ditto MK 19 training rounds. They are only deadly if they hit you, the force and the small amount of gunpowder makes a mess of you but anyone standing next to you would be fine (just covered in gibs and collored chalk).

A lot of training rounds are just pee-wee rounds ballisticly matched to the live rounds.

Given things like Camp Pendelton still having chemicals in the water making people sick despite every effort to clean it up.

Hell, last year an old bunker at Fort Bliss -Biggs Army Air Field (formerly Biggs AFB) was found to be slightly radioactive - as in the bunker was padlocked after everything was scrapped out and put in leadlined boxes.

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pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#14298: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:21:00 PM

It's similar to the federal mandate of non-toxic shot for hunting ducks and geese. Lead shot was banned in favor of steel shot, then bismuth alloys and tungsten composites took over once the price came down to manageable levels. (Steel shot may be non-toxic, but it requires specially-hardened barrels with thicker walls, resulting in a heavier gun. And its ballistics suck.)

Same goes for lead-free ammo for target shooting. Cleaning up all the lead at an old shooting range is difficult and really expensive, with the EPA breathing down your neck the entire time...

edited 16th Jan '17 7:32:03 PM by pwiegle

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
#14299: Jan 16th 2017 at 10:18:14 PM

A review of the Taurus Curve. Quite the interesting concealed carry design, the whole gun is contoured to rest flush with the shooter's hip.

Bat178 Since: May, 2011
#14300: Jan 16th 2017 at 11:40:04 PM

[up] South American weapons tend to be interesting in general.


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