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The Gun Thread:

 1 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 2:11:28 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
We have a military thread, which is fine...but no thread about firearms in general that I saw. There was a "Gun Porn!" thread in Yack Fest but that's Yack Fest. Which can be found here if you are curious.

Anyhow, the thread topic is guns of all types. * Let's try and keep the discussion civil; I know many of us have well-defined opinions about the subject but as always we should strive not to make more work for the mods.

I'll start it off. Revolvers vs. Semi-automatics...preferences?

I prefer revolvers because I got tiny girl-hands and most double-stack auto grips are too chunky. Also, the few times I've been shooting I got vastly better results with revolvers; my experience with a Glock was particularly embarrassing.

Anyone else?

edited 17th Jan '12 5:06:18 PM by drunkscriblerian

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 2 Balmung, Tue, 17th Jan '12 2:22:11 PM from Lexington, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Cosmic Star Troper
I always liked the look of a semi-auto more, though I don't have much experience shooting anything but Nerf guns, though I would like to change that. I suppose I might as well ask what would be good to start with if I ever make it down to a shooting range.

edited 17th Jan '12 2:23:33 PM by Balmung

 3 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 2:32:52 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
Most ranges will let you rent guns (for a fee), if you don't have friends who own one. I would say try everything you can get your hands on before making a purchase; pistols vary widely (though they all share one trait...they are expensive), and it really boils down to what works best for your outlook, stature, shooting style and personal needs (self defense, target shooting, plinking for fun etc).
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

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 4 Major Tom, Tue, 17th Jan '12 2:37:05 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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@OP: Automatics. (Though I wouldn't mind having a good Colt Single Action Army.)

Specifically I would get the M1911 pistol, the service pistol of the US military for over 100 years. (Still in use today in limited usage though largely supplanted by the M9.)

edited 17th Jan '12 2:37:28 PM by MajorTom

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I prefer the old bolt rifles to be honest, its just a shame that I've not held one since I was 16.
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 6 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 3:05:22 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
@Tom: I did enjoy the 1911 I got to shoot once *, though I learned the hard way about "slide bite". [lol]

Again, I do all right with single-stack designs but double stacks (Glocks in particular) just don't suit.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

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 7 pagad, Tue, 17th Jan '12 3:29:13 PM from perfidious Albion Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Sneering Imperialist
I burned through $200 worth of ammunition with three different guns (an M4 carbine, a Thompson and an M3 Grease Gun) at a Las Vegas gun range while on holiday there once. Good times.

Other than that, my only experience of shooting has been plinking tin-cans with an air rifle and clay pigeon shooting, which is pretty much all you can legally do in Britain.

edited 17th Jan '12 3:29:31 PM by pagad

 8 Madrugada, Tue, 17th Jan '12 4:01:17 PM Relationship Status: In season
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I prefer a revolver. The automatics I've had a chance to use simply didn't fit my hand well.
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 9 Tuefel Hunden IV, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:02:46 PM from Wandering. Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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Drunk: you may want to link to the Yackfest version of this thread in your OP. Gun Porn in Yack Fest

Automatics vs Revolver. That depends on what I need the weapon to do. Revolvers are usually noted as reliable and sturdier due to fewer moving parts. Also they are like bolt action rifles and a bit more accurate because of fewer moving parts involved in firing. The down side is the limited capacity and necessity of devices like speed loaders. The bonus is you can load a different type of round into each chamber if you wanted to.

Automatics- Semi-automatic, higher capacity magazines, while not as accurate as the revolver they are accurate enough to get the job done, there are also mechancially more complex then most revolvers and can jam more easily. But they are overall still reliable variant of pistol based fire arms.

Another advantage is with inreased magazine capacity it is easier to fire multiple shots on the same target without interruption and enables you to enage more targets vs a revolver.

edited 17th Jan '12 9:17:54 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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 10 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:08:43 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
@Tuefel: Done.

Anyhow, I'd have to say the best shooting experience I've had thus far was with a Ruger Service Six * in .357 Magnum. Despite not being very heavy the recoil was eminently manageable (I was 16 at the time, and a 120 lb. stick-boy) and I was able to reliably punch holes in soda cans at around 30 feet. I hold that as not bad considering how infrequently I get to shoot.

[down]If you were asking me, it was a Glock 17 in 9mm.

edited 17th Jan '12 5:36:02 PM by drunkscriblerian

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
 11 Deboss, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:11:06 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
What caliber did you try? Also, I'm curious if they've ever gotten a handgun where the rounds were tilted to allow for a smaller magazine.
 12 Nohbody, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:37:06 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
Not having actually used a revolver, I wouldn't know which I prefer.

The whole issue with ammo capacity isn't really that big a deal for many folks, but being the lazy sort I appreciate the idea of being able to spend less time reloading (even though with speed loaders a skilled shooter can reload pretty quickly) and more on putting lead on target (only paper, fortunately; I don't know if I can honestly say that I wouldn't hesitate if it were a person who was facing the "business end" of a weapon in my hand, which I know could potentially make it dangerous to me if such a situation does come up).

Although I like the idea of "big bullets", without more wrist exercising than I've the inclination to do things whose caliber starts with ".4" are a bit much for me to practically control, I've found.
 13 Oscar Wildecat, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:48:32 PM from The Interwebz Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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I'm a mountain boy at heart, so I'll say that nothing beats the versatility a good old fashion shotgun. The recoil of these beasties may be off-putting (especially for the 10 and 12 gauge varieties), but the sound of chambering a shell is very heart warming.

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 14 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:50:26 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
The sound of a pump-action 12 gauge being chambered is the universal translator. It says in every human tongue, "you will have a very bad day if you do not behave".
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
 15 d Roy, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:51:15 PM Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
Hey, what do you call those pistol sized thing with an extra magazine thing at the front, machine pistol?

How practical are those anyways?

@Shotgun - Heh, I heard that a good cock is more than enough to scare any intruders away.

edited 17th Jan '12 5:52:20 PM by dRoy

 16 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:54:02 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
@d Roy: I believe that's the correct term, though nomenclatures like that depend on the audience as far as I've experienced.
If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
 17 Major Tom, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:55:47 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Eye'm the cutest!
^^ Extra magazine in the front? You mean like jungle style two mags taped together?
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 18 d Roy, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:58:26 PM Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
I don't know what to call it. Something like this, but only more...I don't know, pistol-y?

 19 Nohbody, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:59:02 PM from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
Just zis guy
The sound of a pump-action 12 gauge being chambered is the universal translator. It says in every human tongue, "you will have a very bad day if you do not behave".

[lol]

Reminds me of a scene from the 1985 comedy remake of the film version of King Solomon's Mines. Quartermain* is confronted by a German soldier, and says he doesn't understand what the soldier is saying. Said soldier pulls his gun, to which Quartermain replies "Gun I understand."

edited 17th Jan '12 6:00:17 PM by Nohbody

 20 joeyjojo, Tue, 17th Jan '12 5:59:22 PM from The Magic Land Of Oz Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
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you mean like jungle style two mags taped together

Hey I should do that with my camera batteries idea

edited 17th Jan '12 6:00:01 PM by joeyjojo

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 21 Major Tom, Tue, 17th Jan '12 6:00:18 PM Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Eye'm the cutest!
^^^ A submachinegun? Machine pistol is something else. Glock 18 is an example of a machine pistol. (If you want to get technical so is the Uzi.)

edited 17th Jan '12 6:00:56 PM by MajorTom

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 22 d Roy, Tue, 17th Jan '12 6:00:23 PM Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
[up][up][up] Guns, along with pictures, are universal language. waii

[up][up] Whoa, really? How?

[up] *scratches head*

edited 17th Jan '12 6:01:50 PM by dRoy

 23 drunkscriblerian, Tue, 17th Jan '12 6:01:51 PM from Castle Geekhaven Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
@d Roy: something like this? or this? I believe machine pistol is the correct term.

EDIT: @Tom, as far as I know the terms are somewhat interchangeable.

edited 17th Jan '12 6:02:41 PM by drunkscriblerian

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed.

~Cora M. Strayer~
 24 Balmung, Tue, 17th Jan '12 6:02:02 PM from Lexington, Nebraska Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Cosmic Star Troper
@dRoy: That's just a pistol. The fact that the magazine isn't in the grip doesn't change that. See also the Mauser C96. That said, according to the article, the TEC-9 is basically a machine pistol that's had it's full auto disabled.

edited 17th Jan '12 6:03:24 PM by Balmung

 25 d Roy, Tue, 17th Jan '12 6:02:52 PM Relationship Status: Hounds of love are hunting
@Drunk - Huh, I thought those were sub-machine gun?

@Balmug - Ah, I see.

Holy shit, Red 9!

edited 17th Jan '12 6:03:35 PM by dRoy

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