Any let's play recommendations for Youtube?

I don't consider them the pinnacle of maturity, but they're definitely a lot more mature than him, considering that he whines a lot in his videos, runs unfunny jokes into the ground in constantly, uses memes that no one even uses anymore. His commentary's just insufferable, and he goes off topic a lot and doesn't even talk about things even remotely related to the game. I watched his latest LP, and it's like watching a 6 year old play Pokemon. Seriously, I could make a catalog of all his strategic mistakes.

As for good Youtube Pokemon LPers, I'd definitely recommend Slowflake. He plays competitively so he actually knows what the hell he's talking about and breaks the games over his knee, which is a lot more entertaining to watch than someone bumbling around. And he never runs out of things to say either. Unfortunately his mike's pretty bad though, so his voice tends to sound scratchy.

Giant Bomb's P4 Endurance Run? Oh yeah, that's pretty funny. Ironically it's an endurance to watch it too since the videos are so long. Unfortunately, if you're a perfectionist, their videos will have the side effect of making you want to tear your hair out over the way they play the game. If you can get past that though or have never played Persona 4 before, I definitely recommend it. Their Chrono Trigger Endurance Run, though? DO NOT WATCH. The people playing that game have absolutely no idea what they're doing and play like complete and utter morons.

Geez, you sure have a beef against him. Of course, what is considered to be "whiny" by one may not be "whiny" to another. Nothing wrong with using old memes, I do that too often. Unfunny jokes are kinda a beef I have with him but, I tend to ignore them. He commentary to me is not insufferable. Plus, one my of favorite L Pers goes off-topic a lot yet, I tend to enjoy it to all the connections and references. Of course, I could make a catalog of many L Pers mistakes so, he's not alone.

Then again, to me, watching someone bumble around is usually more entertaining than watching someone play it professionally (unless it's a commentated-speedrun or game-breakage vid). I love blind-L Ps as they show me one's journey from inexperience to experience in a game. Having someone professionally play that ruins it (typically), and unless done well, usually loses my interest quickly.

To me at least, Chuggaconroy is one of the top-medium tier L Pers, and one of the best examples of how to frame and format the LP-videos. Then again, as it seems, our mileages will vary a lot on him.

edited 28th Jan '12 7:51:41 PM by Delvarian

Hmm... To be honest, watching someone break the game doesn't seem that fun to me, namely because I can do so myself. Watching someone bumble through it while occassionally getting their asses kicked due to stupid mistakes? I find this much more humourous. Am I a terible person? Most likely. Although, it does get frustrating at times when they start complaining about difficulty and it is just them making a muck of it.

In conclusion, ignore everything I said above as I recommend The Runaway Guys, Pokecapn (especially 2006, but Unleashed is pretty good too), Red Chocobo (text-and-screenshot Pokemon ones mainly), and, while not really an LP in the strictest sense, an LP of Dn D (the tabletop game but done over Skype and Maptool) with Ironicus, Medibot, and others.

Not to mention, your average LP isn't out to show the game as it's played competitively. It's generally out to show how a normal person plays the game in single-player, or multi-player if it's a co-op. If they strategize or use "upper-level" techniques, it's usually only to show off hard-to-get stuff or as a matter of curiosity. I've know several L Pers to hold back, in fact, since blazing through would make it difficult to show off more of the game, or wouldn't give viewers time to appreciate an area, enemy, or boss. And if you think the way Chuggaa plays Emerald is like a 6-year-old, you have obviously never seen small children play Pokemon.

I like a little floundering in my L Ps, too. So long as the editing's tight. Maybe a nice Failure Montage if it gets too painful.

I disagree of the purpose of the Let's Play. It's a person showing the game being played as is.

How they do it is really that their business.

Albeit, I'd like them to be somewhat more professional. Swearing is kind of lame sometimes. IMO.

Unless you're playing Amnesia.

Omegaevolution and MasterLL are pretty good for people who just want to see gameplay without any annoying commentary. They even have Exhibitions for some of the games they play.

Oh I don't mind the occasional mistake, it's just when it happens constantly and all the time do I stop getting entertained and start questioning the player's skills. And most Youtube users do not know the concept of editing and leave all their mistakes in, which causes their LP to be unnecessarily lengthened by them. This is why I, and many people don't like blind LPs, because watching them stumble around a lot in one part for a couple of videos gets old fast.

... You do realize that the point of that portion of my post was that I thought he played like a moron, right?

Yeah, I'm not really a fan of swearing a lot. It just seems so immature and a crutch for actual humor most of the time it's used in LPs.

... You realize that memes, especially ones that are considered dead, are considered annoying, right?

Oh yeah, I do like those two. They put their thoughts into their descriptions, by the way.

I'll second Clement, he's pretty informative and skilled at the games he plays, which is actually pretty impressive since the games he usually LPs are pretty hard. His commentary's relatively fluid as well. Though he seems to have an infatuation with Dr. Eggman, and suffers from the common "reading the text out loud" disease.

edited 30th Jan '12 7:06:56 AM by Marioguy128

mistakes i like the most are when someone who knows the game inside out and is generally showing off, and yet inexplicably fails to do what they intended to do.

granted, these people are usually accompanied by 2 or 3 different voices who humiliate them while the player is just incredulous, so that might be a large part of why i prefer those kinds of mistakes.

in general, im not to fond of single player L Ps unless its A. informative, B. in screenshot form, or C. the lper is really good at ad-libbing and/or writing jokes. like spoony, i guess.

there tends to be a lot of dead air, jokes that range of anywhere from bad to mediocre, that the lper has to make himself laugh at, and in general a lot less to keep my interest. there are some games where this is a better approach though, such as horror games like fatal frame and amnesia, where multiple voices can take away atmosphere (and make it significantly harder to follow the game itself as they usually talk over characters).

I have a high tolerance of "annoynace" (I perceive many characters assumed to be annoying by others to be not annoying. Don't get me started on the issue of Angst and Wangst) so it may be just me. As long as you don't overuse (dead or not) memes, it's all good. True, after some point, it would be a good idea to edit out the mistakes ( and keep it on a separated un-edited video). Still, my love for blind-L Ps does not waiver. I understand why others may not like it though.

On your other point, as long as the person reading the dialogue doesn't butcher the voices, it's fine with me - I don't consider it to be a disease at all. I keep thinking you are being a bit too nitpicky on this matter.

edited 30th Jan '12 9:13:29 AM by Delvarian

And the point of my post was that you have very little experience with actual morons if that's what you consider "moronic" to be.

Not to mention, finding memes annoying is hardly a universal thing. As replies here would indicate. Lotta generalizing going on over there.

Reading text out loud is just unnecessary, and really awful if there's an annoying voice. I find it quite insulting to the viewer's intelligence (then again, we're talking Youtube LPs), we know how to read. They're playing a video game, not reading a bedtime story. And I'm not interested in hearing what they think a character sounds like, and frankly it's just commentary filler. Not every moment of the video has to have the commentator's voice in it. I find that not a lot of people like it that much, though some do if the "voice acting" is good enough for them. And I'm just saying what I don't like about LPs. It's not like the LP is automatically ruined for me if it contains text reading, memes, or bad jokes.

Did I say everyone found them annoying? No, I said they're generally considered annoying. Not all of them are, (Though some will be someday) but having them used constantly can get grating fast. Especially with old ones. Besides, there was ONE reply here saying that. Two if you count yours, I guess.

Quit acting like a fan girl. I just don't find him to be that good of a player. (I'll admit though, he seems to have gotten better in one of the later videos I watched.)

edited 30th Jan '12 7:02:10 PM by Marioguy128

Honestly, I turn off any Let's Play that doesn't have the person talk. If I wanted to watch a gameplay video, I can go to the official website. But I'm interested in the how LP'er plays it and how they put their own voice acting into it.

Not reading the dialogue means there's no point in them playing it since we don't know the story. Especially when they skip it. By let's playing it, they're indeed presenting the story to us, because we're not playing the game. It's like we're watching a movie, and so, we need voices to get across what's being said. I don't care if they're voice acting is subpar, because without it, I find it super boring.

I only like let's players who personally do their own voice acting and don't skip the story itself. You're doing this to entertain us after all, so we expect to know what you think of it. The gameplay is great and all, but a lot of gameplay sucks anyway(Lagoon), so hearing what they have to say about it, even if complaining, is kind of like a review at times. It's easier to judge a game based upon seeing what's really going on. Also, there's no reason for them to not do voice acting, unless they can't get an actual headset, then never mind.

whut. you can go to official websites for full length walkthroughs with no commentary?

huh.

and yes, there are plenty of reasons not to add voice acting. one of them being really important: they dont have the voice for it. other reasons include: 1 person doing all the characters is jarring. 1 person doing only one person is also jarring because it tends to leave the others unvoiced, leaving an odd disconnect. and having other people randomly chime in to do other characters is also jarring because there usually wouldnt be there before. another reason is that the game is already voice acted, and either significantly worse or better than the lper could ever do it, making it much more entertaining than the lpers attempt. or you know, because its not a general rule for lpers to skip text so its perfectly reasonable for us to read.

if they skip text anyway, than this wasnt an lp that was supposed to present the story. its a gameplay/commentary run. thats pretty much all i got for now.

"Generally considered" is still making quite a few assumptions. Considered by whom? You're putting words in the mouth of large number of people by grandly stating what their preferences are without actually stating who they are. Considering the fanbases some L Pers have, that latch on to the memes to the point of creating wikis to catagorize them, fan-channels to showcase them and remix them, or fanart clubs to portray them (I can offer links, if one so desires), I'd say that the memes are not so very hated as you are claiming the silent majority thinks.

Also, it's good to know only fangirls can defend things. That just puts so many things in perspective, y'know?

Silm Kirby is a good Let's Player.

I have heard much good about Slim Kirby, but it seems I never remember to actually sit down and watch his stuff. Shame.

Hamster Alliance / Hamst3r does some pretty good LP's.

At least I think so, anyway.
Maybe I'm just easily entertained, I dunno.

dsdude1107 is a pretty good one. A bit of a bad mouther, but a great Let's Player none the less.

Another LPer I enjoy is Quill18. TheMeInTeam is also good, if you're into the Civ series.

edited 30th Jan '12 11:01:16 PM by Blissey1

They're not quite as good as his music though.

I finally watched some Slim Kirby! And he is, indeed, good! But I liked his collabs with Madame Wario the best. She herself is totally adorbs, and I generally like group LP's better than solo ones. I think it helps keep the commentary more lively, and means the commentors don't have to ramble to fill space.