'80s TV Action Hero
1. left/right -0.2791 (-0.0168)
2. pragmatism -2.4040 (-0.1447)
edited 24th Dec '11 6:47:11 AM by InverurieJones
'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
Axis Position 1 left/right -5.0166 (-0.3020) 2 pragmatism -1.3184 (-0.0794)
On scale of things; in the left idealist area.
I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok. I sleep all night and work all day.
Raven Wilder
Since when is "Correct grammar is important" a political issue!?!
Also, according to the makers of this survey, Margaret Thatcher was approximately as far right as Adolf Hitler.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
'80s TV Action Hero
Wasn't written by Arthur Scargill, was it?
'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
1 left/right -3.5476 (-0.2135) 2 pragmatism +2.8525 (+0.1717)
now what does it mean?
edited 24th Dec '11 7:19:17 AM by nnokwoodeye
It's Like Arguing on the Internet
Left/right -0.6925 (-0.0417), pragmatism +2.0536 (+0.1236). In other words, just slightly above and to the left of center, and pretty much directly above Tony Blair.
Somehow you know that the time is right.
left/right -7.5065 (-0.4518)
pragmatism +1.5282 (+0.0920)
Moar and Moar and Moar
See, I don't like these polls, namely because a lot of the time they're dealing with absolutes when they don't really apply.
A good example would be "The only way for some workers to achieve fair pay is through collective bargaining"..well..no. You could also lock in full employment for an extended period of time, but considering the attitude towards potential inflation, that's unlikely to happen.
Or, people who are unwilling to work do not deserve to eat. Yes, but most economies are in a state right now where there's not enough jobs for all those who want to work in the first place.
Maybe I'm just far too nuanced for this sort of thing.
Democracy is the process in which we determine the government that we deserve
-10.0730 (-0.6063)
- 0.3781 (+0.0228)
Left and middling between idealistic and pragmatic. Makes a lot of sense to me, shame only the really obscure and unlikely to win a single seat parties have anything other than right-wing beliefs in this country.
Eye'm the cutest!
1 left/right +4.7439 (+0.2855)
2 pragmatism +3.0130 (+0.1814)
In the general vicinity of folks like Margaret Thatcher. (No surprise.)
"Allah may guide their bullets, but Jesus helps those who aim down the sights."
left/right -1.1284 (-0.0679)
pragmatism -0.6216 (-0.0374)
So that's... slightly left wing, and just about more idealistic than pragmatic?
edited 24th Dec '11 2:09:05 PM by ArlaGrey
1 left/right -7.6372 (-0.4597)
2 pragmatism +2.1031 (+0.1266)
Left/Right: -5.6188
Idealism/Pragmatism: +.7041
So, I'm a moderately-left-of-center person who prefers solutions that I think are attainable over those I'd actually like to see happen? That doesn't surprise me at all.
I see the Awesomeness.
1 left/right -1.9399 (-0.1168) 2 pragmatism +5.3319 (+0.3209)
Fight smart, not fair.
1 left/right -11.4671 (-0.6902) 2 pragmatism +1.5986 (+0.0962)
Not very surprising.
It was wierd of them to say Joseph Stalin was right of center, though.
NOT THE BEES
left/right -0.8912
pragmatism -4.0493
That's about what I expected a test like this to say. It does deal with a lot of silly caricature absolutes and falls into the usual "how much do you hate corporations?" that plagues tests like this and skews things way left, but admittedly it's a hell of a lot better than usual.
Also interesting to see an idealism scale measure sort of "how far would you go".
edited 24th Dec '11 3:31:11 PM by Pykrete
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Well, despite claiming to be a Communist, Stalin was actually a fascist authoritarian with an iron fist. The fact remains that the political spectrum is not a line, but a circle, and that if you head too far in either direction, you'll end up on the opposite side.
Hitler and Stalin utterly hated each other, personally and politically, but there was nary a difference between the two in terms of tangible policy.
edited 24th Dec '11 3:20:45 PM by DarkConfidant
Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer
The FAQ is quite interesting.
There are millions of people in my country whom the state should murder. All political parties other than my own should be banned. Starting a land war in Europe is a really neat idea.
Since — presumably — all the real respondents to the test would answer "strongly disagree" to these questions, they are not much use for determining people's present-day political leanings. Nevertheless, I thought that people would be interested to see where the two dictators come out on the plot.
(And, no, Hitler was not a socialist. He didn't nationalise industries, he persecuted trades unionists, and relied on the support of German capitalists for German rearmament and the war effort. The fact that the acronym from which the name "NAZI party" is drawn — NSDAP, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, "National Socialist German Workers' Party" — contains the word "socialist" is an example of political spin (or, if you like, a lie).
I'll post my results in a bit.
Edit: Came out similarly to Tomu, and to the test's creator when he tried it out for himself.
Axis Position
1 left/right -6.6564 (-0.4007)
2 pragmatism +2.2672 (+0.1365)
Funny how some of my answers have changed. There was a time when I would have agreed that top-quality health care necessitated a top-quality price. Then I was diagnosed with an immune disease, for which I regularly receive top-quality health care at one of the few hospitals equipped to treat it (and for which my insurance is charged $120,000 a year.)
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Oh, I didn't intend to fish for sympathy. I'm symptom-free when medicated, and if Obama's medical reforms are upheld, future insurers will be disallowed from denying me coverage.
edited 24th Dec '11 3:45:42 PM by feotakahari
That's Feo . . . He's a disgusting, mysoginistic, paedophilic asshat who moonlights as a shitty writer—Something Awful
left/right -1.7251 (-0.1038)
pragmatism +3.4165 (+0.2056)
I am aware of Stalin's brutality, but I just read the answers the guy assumed Stalin would give, and some of them are weird
You have my sympathy.
edited 24th Dec '11 3:43:41 PM by stripesthezebra
FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC!
1 left/right -7.8995 (-0.4755)
2 pragmatism +0.3951 (+0.0238)
Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.
So, with the exception of Major Tom, everyone is at least somewhat left-of-center?
I must say that this most definitely and assuredly surprised me.
NOT THE BEES
Well yes, but it's exaggerated a bit because of question bias — again, not nearly as badly as they tend to run, but still noticeably. I'd wager a real "center" sits about -1 to -2 or so.
edited 24th Dec '11 4:20:04 PM by Pykrete
I've found a political test online: It's a particularly nuanced one: For starters, it states the important questions both as the Right and the Left frame 'em. Then it averages your responses to both:
That corrects most of the bias derived from the wording. Its two axes are Left/Right and Idealism/Pragmatism. It defines Idealism as a pro-order, pro-law, pro-objective morality perspective and Pragmatism as legal and moral skepticism/relativism.
My results: Left/Right -7,68 Pragmatist +3,42
Link to the test itself.
edited 24th Dec '11 6:39:00 AM by SavageHeathen
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.