General Star Wars Thread

No that would be Kr'uhk

Part of me wishes that they'd kept the scene of Grevious killing Shaak Ti in ROTS. If only to give Grevious SOME kind of actual menace (since he has none in that film). He's supposed to be some dangerous Jedi Killer, but he was rather pathetic in that movie.

Would the audience even care? She's a nobody to the vast majority.

The scene is more fun than menacing.

Shaak Ti is not a single person, but a series of clones throughout the multiverse, all of whom die in dramatic ways.

Played by Sean Bean.

Looks like the Kaminoans did clone a Jedi after all.

I would have opened ROTS with Grievous aboard the Malevolence killing one or more Jedi. Probably Ki-Adi Mundi if I had to pick one, as he's the only council member who's not Windu/Yoda/Obi-Wan who gets any lines during the prequels. And then I'd give Shaak Ti Ki Adi Mundi's death in the film (shot by his own men).

The Invisible Hand. The Malevolence a-sploded in TCW.

...man am I a geek.

So... Wasn't the Solo trailer supposed to come out yesterday?...

Just merge the remnants of the two and call it The Invisible Hand of Malevolence.,

A Phantom Menace, if you will.

Boo

Honestly the villains are one of the things that makes be believe that George was essentially making the PT up as he went along. Because there was a pattern (villain shows up out of nowhere, not having been seen, mentioned, or referenced in the previous films, and is now the new "chief henchmen" for Sheev). He did that THREE times in as many films, and none of them got enough screentime/stuff to do imo.

I don't think Darth Maul counts, considering Episode I was chronologically the first.

True, but he does count in the "doesn't get enough screentime/stuff to do" category.

On the contrary these secondary antagonists seem to have been one of the things he thought out the most. It has already been exhaustively observed how Darth Maul, Count Dooku and General Grievous are all different facets of Vader given form: The implacable hunter short on words (Maul) the fallen hero of a noble order (Dooku) and the man trapped in the machine (Grievous).

Part of it seems to be that Lucas deliberately set out to make the PT multimedia based, as the Clone Wars 2d miniseries introduced General Grievous.

I think part of it was deliberately a bit of the trilogy's episodic structure. Each film is meant to have a different kind of 'face' for the villains, for Palpatine's chief minion, and each is meant to be a different phase of the Republic's final days and Anakin's life. How well that works, well, there are probably ways it could have been executed better. That's the prequels for you.

edited 16th Jan '18 1:02:37 PM by Lavaeolus

According to Solo: A Star Wars Story's synopsis, the movie will show how he met Lando and Chewie. https://www.cbr.com/disney-synopsis-solo-a-star-wars-story/

Almost certainly an intergalactic space opera heist movie, then.

didn't we have that 2 years ago?

According to SF Debris' documentary on the making of the prequels, George Lucas did have an overall outline for the entire PT, but other considerations forced him to shift things around right before making each movie. For example, Lucas needed to show Anakin leaving his mother to go to the Jedi. Anakin needed to be young when he left, so the departure hurts him—and Lucas didn't want this part to be a flashback, nor did he want a ten-year timeskip within a single movie. So the only solution was to do a whole movie with young Anakin. But young Anakin was a pretty small part of Lucas's original plan, so had to move some parts of the original outline ten years backwards in the chronology, and invent new stuff to fill in the resulting plot holes. Like Qui-Gon Jinn was created to take Obi-Wan Kenobi's place in the original outline for Episode I—because moving the plot ten years back made Obi-Wan too young for that part.

ANYWAY, the result of this is that there wound up being too much plot outline for Episode III, forcing Lucas to move large swathes of his original outline to the EU. In the earlier outline, Count Dooku's death was closer to the end of the story. In fact, Dooku's death is what triggered the confrontation with Palpatine that ended with Anakin turned to the Dark Side. When the rewrites forced Dooku's death to the beginning of Episode III, Lucas had to invent another villain to fill that gap. And that's why we got General Grievous.

Lucas just made the best of a bad situation, by differentiating Grievous from Dooku enough that it's not really obvious that he's a replacement, and by using Grievous to foreshadow a different aspect of Darth Vader.

The prequels were meant to explore the wider galaxy, rather than the OT being confined to a tight group of freedom fighters. Similarly, they had a singular goal of striking against the Empire, while the prequels was more about unraveling conspiracies and fighting a war on multiple fronts, which would naturally include a wider variety of characters.

So apparently Daniel Logan (the actor who played Young Boba Fett) shared an image on his Instagram.◊

Haha I love these posts that hint at bigger shit in the future.

Bring on the Obi-Wan & Boba movies I say.

Might as well do something with the property.