General Star Wars Thread

Luke dying in Epside VIII would mean he largely died a failure and Rey would end up getting credit for restarting the Jedi, which I'm not thrilled about. Luke's revival of the Jedi in the old EU was a success. Having him die with a ruined New Jedi Order, a shattered New Republic, a fallen Apprentice, and another that he never fully trained, systematically takes away all his successes and makes him a Memetic Loser.

edited 19th Feb '17 12:02:27 PM by CrimsonZephyr

Or maybe the Jedi/Republic, much like the Sith/Empire before them, will also be finally destroyed as relics of a bygone era. Letting something new grown in its stead.

We already did that with Return of the Jedi. It is pointless to do it again.

I'm sure the Jedi and NR will be fine; I worry more about individual characters.

Obligatory snide comment about TFA.

Considering Abrams apparently left Luke out of most of TFA because he didn't want him to overshadow Rey, I feel like Luke is guaranteed to get axed at some point, because presumably Rey has to come into her own as a new Jedi without any spectres of the past hanging over her shoulder, and just incapacitating him or something probably wouldn't be enough for the writers. And also it'd be a cheap way to get feels out of the audience.

The next to episodes would have to do a really good job of selling Rey and the new canon for me to get behind that, though.

Rey vs. Kylo and Luke vs. Snoke simultaneously. I think I'd like that.

JJ never said that Luke would overshadow Rey. Abrams and Kasdan have both said that TFA is about a young heroine discovering Luke Skywalker after she first hears of him as a mythic figure, and while I think Luke could have been in the movie more than he was, I feel like he did a pretty decent job with that.

Aye, it was Michael Arndt who talked about Luke overshadowing:

JJ Abrams:

So yeah, there were originally plans for Luke to have a larger presence, and they were scrapped out of concern of him overshadowing the focus on Rey and Finn; but what we got was a group effort, not solely on any one person.

https://moviepilot.com/posts/3713096

edited 19th Feb '17 3:57:34 PM by TheAirman

I just want to know: is rey going to lost her hand in this movie? because if she is a skywalker, she better lost her hand, otherwise I will be piss.

Rey will buck the trend and lose a leg instead.

At the end of the trilogy, Rey's entire body will be robotic except for her left hand.

@Shadao:

What I meant was that there would be no unified galactic civilization anymore. No Jedi or Sith, but other disjointed Force groups along with independent systems all over the place, with no central government.

And the Bendu laughing in the background.

edited 19th Feb '17 10:47:56 PM by TerminusEst

Cyborg Frankenstein Rey will do her best impression of Anakin Sal-Solo and use repulsor technology to act like she's using the Force.

edited 19th Feb '17 10:48:15 PM by higherbrainpattern

So like the Robocop remake?

I mean, if you nix the brains and heart and pretty much every other vital internal organ, what you're left with is pretty much just a droid with an organic hand attached. Which is kinda nasty.

I'm still waiting for Dooku's head to come back strapped onto a robotic spider body.

edited 20th Feb '17 12:21:22 AM by TheAirman

Robot spider legs for everyone!

So does anybody else want Finn to be Force-sensitive but NOT have his Force-sensitivity be the reason he was resistant to the brainwashing? I feel like that'd send an uncomfortable "Some people are just born better than everyone else" kinda message.

Me. The movie made it pretty clear for me and for other Finn fans that Finn broke away from the First Order because he's an inherently good person who didn't want to slaughter innocent people, as well as the fact that his inherent goodness survived in a highly fascistic and evil environment. I believe that he's Force sensitive as well, so yeah, I agree with you.

I'd prefer Finn not to be Force Sensitive at all. I feel it'd enhance his "random person doing great things" vibe.

What is the "Force noise" anyway? One argument in favor of Finn being Force-sensitive on the TFA YMMV page is that the "Force noise" plays over him at one point, but I can't for the life of me recall what the noise sounds like.

Finn's characterization bothers me and adding Force-sensitive on top of who that isn't the way to go until they iron out his character.

The movie wants me to think that Finn is the normal guy in the group but his backstory just doesn't make sense with his characterization.

Like he's this child-soldier that is apparently a badass in the backstory but all we get on film is a bumbling sidekick that spends half his time acting funny. You could've made Finn a newbie Imperial technician and you would've gotten a more coherent character.

edited 20th Feb '17 11:43:10 AM by MadSkillz

Or a conscript just out of basic training.

Well the village attack apparently was his first combat action.

I won't mind Finn being Force Sensitive if it's only very mild, if Poe is too, and it's generally not treated as that "special", because the reason he's great is because of his status as the everyman who saves the day through strength of character and just having enough physical competence to put that character into action, rather than being some sort of ubermensch who's simply just better(TM) than his peers. And for the love of god please do not make him some sort of Secret Long Lost Prince like a canon version of all the shitty Hermione Sues in Harry Potter fanfic.