General Star Wars Thread

Even if Disney is currently promoting the EU as on-par with the movies, let's face it: as soon as we get a new bunch Running the Asylum, someone will make a new movie that contradicts parts (or large swaths) of the EU. It's the nature of the beast.

I didn't write any of that.

Which is why the Lucasfilm Story Group exists. To prevent what you just said from happening. Dave Filoni, Leland Chee and other folks in the Story Group discuss stuff in a committee to make sure there are as few inconsistencies in the new canon as possible.

When they use those lines to describe them, yes they sound more like tie-ins than stories. Nothing stands on its own and is just a story about a Imperial Moff and his struggle to build a good relationship with the people of a planet instead of having to kill them all while building a Star Port, it's all connected instead with the Moff turning out to be the villain of Star Wars Episode XXI and this story is really his start of darkness that everyone will have to pick up if they want to know his story aside from him being the bad guy of the movie before the All-New All Different Sith kill him. The tie-in issues to Marvel's big events are well known as utter pacebreakers and usually have a sharp drop in quality(while still being better than the main event book) because the story has to stop being about X person/team having their own problems and is now about punching the enemy of the season(be it Thanos, Ultron, zombies or evil heroes) or dealing with problems from the event for 4 issues before restarting their own story again.

None of the announced books sounds anything like something I want to read to find out more about the universe apart from the Atlas and the info book. It all just sounds like hype material for the new movie.

Where are the new books about Shaak Ti and Mace Windu teaming up during the Clone Wars, where is the book about Luke being with the Rebels(oh wait this is in the comics so we will probably not get a book about him between IV and VI ever again because they can just do it there), where is the book about new EU expy of Pellaeon working under a Moff and where is the book about Obi-Wan and Anakin before II in the new EU? Some of the new EU books will probably be fine but there is so much they could do that isn't connected to the movies aside from taking place in the same universe.

Give Zahn a book with Han, Chewie and Leia trying to get a planet to join the Rebels before V for instance. Have a book about Vader seeking a Jedi Master hiding out on Jabiim while dealing with the great anti Empire/Republic factions.

I want more books. The comics are fine(and Vader is great along with Leia)but I want more actual books that tell original stories about the universe and doesn't feel the need to tie-in to a new movie.

Edit: Isn't that a comic and not a book?

edited 5th Jul '15 1:08:35 AM by LordofLore

That's like, your opinion, man.

I still want to read Shattered Empire, so.

edited 4th Jul '15 12:01:31 PM by higherbrainpattern

Until the Powers That Be get bored with the new canon and decide to start over, again.

Leland Chee was already the big kahuna of continuity for the old EU, but he wasn't able to stop Disney from wiping the slate clean.

edited 4th Jul '15 12:01:54 PM by MetaFour

I didn't write any of that.

I guarantee, give it five years and the new continuity will have its own hiccups. The movies themselves don't quite fit together.

And the old EU was basically just a fun expansion of the Star Wars universe, nothing more. It would be completely different if there was already a hypothetical Episode 7 novel or comic made, something that was intended as continuing the main story and not exist largely in its own bubble.

Re: Nu52, I used that because it's the most recent example.

For every reboot DC's done, there's been fan outcry, and then they inevitably undo them. Marvel as well.

Nobody gives a shit about movie Spiderman anymore for the same reason. If you're gonna reboot something, you pretty much have to make the first story of the reboot as compelling as Batman Begins (or the last story of the old canon as shite as Batman and Robin) if you don't want to turn off fans.

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There's already story hiccups in new canon, and a lot of them are rooted in Rebels being so light and fluffy during a period marked by pain, suffering and evil.

edited 4th Jul '15 1:26:11 PM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

We've already got comics about stuff like Luke's first duel with Vader and Vader finding out about his son. Do those not count?

but HOW?

There's one thing I explicitly agree with Cru on and that's that making Luke the chosen one is awful. It's a great irony that while Luke fits the chosen one archetype more, it's ultimately his father that's the chosen one not him.

I actually kinda like the idea that while Luke is strong with the Force, he doesn't have anywhere near the potential that Anakin did.

Maybe when he's at his full potential he'd be like equal to Sidious with Anakin's full potential being twice theirs.

"You can't change the world without getting your hands dirty."

I never got that Sidious was particularly powerful, as force-users go (minus EU craziness that had him opening up wormholes in space and shit). My impression was always that Sidious was intensely intelligent, and an unsurpassed schemer.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

The fact he manages to fight toe-to-toe with Master goddamn Yoda is a sign that he had some pretty interesting powers.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

Sidious is extremely strong. Those three guys he kills in the space of thirty seconds were on the Council.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."

Yeah, but he's a Sith.

All of his abilities and powers come to combat and aggression. And he only fought Yoda to a draw. Dooku managed that. Kinda

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Dooku managed not to die against Yoda. Big difference.

In fact the movies basically explicetly point out the difference in Dooku's and Sidious's powers with the Force Lightining. Yoda blocks and defects Dooku's with one hand in a very casual way, but with Sidiuous's lightning, Yoda has to give all he's got to block them with his hands.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

So he's pretty powerful, but I really feel like it's his mental prowess that gives him such an edge.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Undoubtedly his scheming is what made him so dangerous, but it's only because he's so powerful in the dark side that the Jedi had not discovered him forever ago through the force.

The only other sith that has managed to be so close to the Jedi without being detected was Darth Bane's apprentice, Darth Zannah, and that ability was known to be her specialty. Palpatine just casually does it.

Xanatos, Qui-Gon's apprentice before Obi-Wan, managed to do this too, but he was hiding underground so it wasn't like anyone was even aware he was there, whereas Zannah and Palpatine were out in public.

Aaaaaanyway, Sidious vs Yoda seems like clearly as win for Sidious. Yoda had to run away and was severely weakened, while Sidious was well enough to be laughing at the end.

edited 4th Jul '15 2:26:07 PM by Cruherrx

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

Yes, I know the Fanservice from Twileks comes from their women being bought as slaves. Other than Star Wars Conquest for Mount and Blade, the fanservice was most of my exposure to the race. I mean, even when the fucking JEDI from their people decides to wear revealing clothing, you know there's something to it, ya?

Maybe it's a cultural thing?

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Could be. Although it would still be sexist, since we don't see their males dress like that.

Closest thing for those of us who like boys is a bare armed Luke...

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

There was that Clone Wars short with Kit Fisto shirtless while swimming underwater.

That was Kit Fisto

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

The only thing really alien about him was his head - which seemed like a green aquatic galactic expy of Bob Marley - but his body can be considered otherwise human.

Well can you blame Star Wars guys for never exposing themselves? Those outfits are to die for.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

Yoda vs Sidious semed like an evident draw to me. Yoda leaves weakened at the end because A) He just fell a thirty feet drop without breaking down against cold, hard steel B) The fight was exhausting C) Troopers were on their way.

Palpatine lucked out in the "force explosion" because he was in the middle of the pod, so he was just launched backwards and could regain his footing. Yoda was at the edge and was sent hurling towards the ground.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."