General Star Wars Thread

Director's Cut comics.

Diego Luna has been cast in Rogue One.

Manolo? NICE.

edited 13th May '15 1:02:27 PM by higherbrainpattern

The original film had a crew that can't be overlooked because they were the ones that made it work. Ralph Mc Quarrie's impressive designs, John Dykstra's innovative camera along with the rest of ILM team, Ben Burtt's unique sound effects, John Williams' classical score, the editing team and many others.

Does the EU explain what exactly the plan was for rescuing Han from Jabba the Hutt? Because what we see on-screen looks like the good guys had split into two or more groups who didn't share their plans at all. Or if there was an overarching plan, depended on decisions Jabba made, which they couldn't have anticipated without Luke inexplicably getting better at Force precognition off-screen.

I thought it was a multi-step plan that essentially worked through all of their options in one go. Lando's presence assumed the failure of all but the final option, and he was probably in there early to get intel on the place. It starts off with Threepio and Artoo trying the first option: honest, peaceful negotiation. If Jabba was in a good mood, he could see it as a business transaction and they buy Han out of the carbonite. This could work with Jabba, since he got his message across that you don't screw with him, but he also still gets the money Han owed him.

In comes Leia for option two: stealth. She comes in with Chewbacca as a pretense, steals Han while presumably Lando would bust out Chewie, and they all get away with less risk.

If this should fail and they all get caught, then Luke comes in as The Heavy and they have to fight their way out, with all the elements they need to escape cleanly at that point in place: Leia at least got Han thawed out, Artoo has the smuggled-in lightsaber, Chewie is in the execution group as well, and Lando's still lying in wait.

Now this does run a few presumptions of Jabba's character. Mainly that he would go for a grand execution instead of just shooting everyone. Boba Fett plugs Leia and Han the instant they get caught. Tragic End.

edited 14th May '15 12:20:26 PM by Ogodei

I hadn't considered that interpretation. Definitely makes the most sense.

I still get the impression that Luke was more or less blindsided by the existence of the Rancor pit, but that's not too implausible.

The Vader version of that scene is great in the comics. He actually notices the pit so Jabba has to listen to him after his guards are taken out.

Quick, wish that the Force be with George for his birthday while there's still time!

May the Force be with you George!

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ditto

Wow, I totally forgot, May the Force be with him!

He should succumb to the dark side.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."

Sorry but his charity means that he's immune to the corrupting nature of the dark side. Palpatine would never build homes.

Or schools.

As much as I dislike the guy, I have to admit, Lucas has done a lot of cool philanthropical stuff.

One of my favorite Lucas donations was giving money to the conservation of the endangered Saiga Antelope. If you see one, they look almost exactly like something he'd come up with.

Hey look, Disney is thinking about giving Star Wars it's own dedicated cable channel:

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2015/05/13/disney-star-wars-marvel-cable-channel/

That only works if they fill it with material. There's not really enough right now to merit an entire channel. There's only so long that you can marathon blocks of Clone Wars and Rebels, and all six movies before people get bored and quit watching.

They could always recanonize Old Clone Wars and show that.

Or Droids and Ewo-*shot*

Oh! Plus they would need to get the rights to the Clone Wars CGI show from Cartoon Network. If they were going to do that anyway there was little need to cancel it before it got its seventh season.

Continuing from the Episode 7 thread:

The problem is that arm candy slaves are equated with nubile females and only them, despite Jabba having such a preference being illogical. If he wanted to humilate people, why isn't Chewbacca given a similar treatment? Why are all his slaves female humanoids?

It shatters my Willing Suspension of Disbelief because the audience's preferences are given to a character when it doesn't make sense. If Jabba were a human or humanoid, it would not be so jarring.

A problematic trope being build into the story to have a further purpose doesn't negate the problematic aspect.

That's true, and a way to see it. I'm personally averse to replicating gender problems in made up worlds since it seems to reinforce their inevitability. But that is just my personal preference.

I'm sure that's NOT what Lucas was going for when he had Jabba keep female sex slaves, but replicating modern issues is an important part of fiction, even speculative fiction.

Also, we really don't know that much about Jabba that isn't just fanwank. There are people in real life who are attracted to other species. Without going the Squick route I pulled in the other thread, there IS the Furry Fandom. Granted, it takes more of a stretch to see a slug being attracted to something completely outside its shape, but it's not impossible.

edited 15th May '15 7:57:25 PM by Journeyman

You can address modern issues without copying them 1:1. Like Fantastic Racism.

True in general, but in any Star Wars context that isn't strictly, "where can we take the series in the future" you always need to be mindful of where the franchise came from. It was an homage to sources that often celebrated the very things you're fighting against now.

ETA: So instead of fighting people who happen to like, or at least not mind, Leia's slave time, you're better off sticking to "Okay, yeah, that happened, but what can we do better in the Sequel Trilogy?" Because fighting over works that are decades old from a modern standpoint is just going to get shit slung at you.

edited 15th May '15 8:13:25 PM by Journeyman

Look, the inclusion of male slaves would already have solved part of the problem. You wouldn't even have had to take anything away at all.

The other part of the problem, the lack of female characters, is already solved in the new movies.

If you're willing to admit that stuff, why was this even a discussion? You should have just said "yeah, right, whatever, moving on" when the discussion over there first started. No point in rehashing social issues in 30 year old works when the franchise is already getting a better installment.