"Happy Holidays!"

Muslims that come from a country that decorate trees for New Years?

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

As Kara said above. Blame the Fundies for using Christmas as a battleground for their precious culture war.

Democracy is the process in which we determine the government that we deserve

Oh, right those people.

Nevermind.

Yeah, I don't like fundies. They make reasonable theists like me look bad.

edited 20th Dec '11 10:41:49 AM by Kexruct

They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay

The bigger issue is that I think the culture war theatrics (I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I do think that a lot of it is simply posturing) has and is continuing to move out of strictly fundamentalist circles into mainstream religion.

Or in short, I feel that things are getting worse in this regard, and not better.

Democracy is the process in which we determine the government that we deserve

Agreed. I do think, however, that the growing number of charismatic non-denominational sects getting more political sway are the biggest problem, since they tend to support the culture-war mentality more than some of the other sects and they're very vocal about their "Christian nation" ideals.

Then again, some of the more reasonable traditional sects are starting to behave more radically too. Even Methodists, whom I used to have a lot of respect for, are starting to get on the "hate the non-christians" bandwagon.

edited 20th Dec '11 11:02:43 AM by DrunkGirlfriend

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian

That's definitely a thought that scares me. I mean, come on people! We all know fundies are idiots, stop listening to them!

They call themselves seamstresses -Feet Of Clay

Perhaps it's a reaction to attacks from the other side of the culture divide?

Perhaps it's the ideological version of Stockholm Syndrome? Disturbing, to think that the majority of humanity is subconsciously built to positively respond to whoever abuses us the most.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

To be honest, the only reason I use "Happy Holidays" (or, rather, its Spanish equivalent) has nothing to do with religions and stuff but rather that in that short three to five days period I have at least three family/parentage birthdays, usually attendance to school graduations, job/workplace parties, a friend's birthday, then Xmas, Dia de los Inocentes and then next week New Year. I'm far more concerned about wishing good times to the most people in my close circle than about which fairy tale does each one of them believe.

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To be honest, I actually think that CDRW is correct. Not that this is the fault of secularists, at least I don't think, but the perceived attacks coming from the secular sphere really do seem to have pushed people in a more literalistic and combative direction. Which to be honest is almost a normal, expected reaction to a loss of privilege.

Which doesn't make it right, of course.

Democracy is the process in which we determine the government that we deserve

I always use Merry Christmass. Xmass sounds as if Jesus had been an X-men.

But if I worked in a convinience store and wanted to be a troll about it I would just say "Feliz Navidad!"

edited 23rd Dec '11 4:47:48 AM by Baff

I will always cherish the chance of a new beggining.

I think I'll just stick with a hearty "Bah humbug!" for everyone tomorrow.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

Humbug is not a greeting. It's a do not disturb.

Now using Trivialis handle.

Oh boy, THIS topic...

I'm not going to bother reading through the last few pages: have people mentioned the so-called War on Christmas yet?

Merry Christmas.

I'm an atheist. And I'm extremely offended by this.

The implication that only Christians get to be represented is offensive, yes, but it shouldn't be offensive to have someone say Merry Christmas.

What's offensive is people getting offended by people saying Happy Holidays.

Saying "Happy _" isn't a representation. It's a personal statement.

Now using Trivialis handle.