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TheProffesor The Professor from USA Since: Jan, 2011
#176: Dec 28th 2011 at 5:17:42 PM

There is a differences between using gadgets and being a cyborg. Cyborgs have the technology embedded inside them or attached to them. Using a pen or wearing glasses is just using a tool.

imojee Be evil from The Desert Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: In bed with a green-skinned space babe
Be evil
#177: Dec 30th 2011 at 12:29:09 AM

I would get a ridiculous amount of cybernetics added.

Fuck "what it means to be human", my new cyborg body is above humanity!

Through the eyes I have known you.
Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#178: Dec 30th 2011 at 8:41:46 AM

posthumanity, ahoy?

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#179: Dec 30th 2011 at 10:53:16 AM

I am of the belief that as humanity becomes more like computers, computers will become more like humans.

That is to say, I think that bio-organic technology will be the key to cyborgs rather than "Oh hay, I have titanium limbs"

Something that can heal itself is kind of important with this sort of thing. I'd hate to be a cyborg and have to constantly go in for maintenance and tune ups.

MCE Grin and tonic from Elsewhere Since: Jan, 2001
Grin and tonic
#180: Jan 2nd 2012 at 6:26:33 AM

"What do you mean, would I? I already wear Spectacles, and a wrist watch and I always carry a phone which I am in the process of duct taping to my head"

(Zero punctuation review of Deus ex human revolution - here )

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DomaDoma Three-Puppet Saluter Since: Jan, 2001
Three-Puppet Saluter
#181: Jan 2nd 2012 at 6:49:56 AM

I'd rather like Honor Harrington's left eye, as my vision is crappy. Otherwise, I'm good.

Hail Martin Septim!
Ramidel (Before Time Began) Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#182: Jan 14th 2012 at 4:31:19 PM

I, for one, am going to seek nanotechnological mental enhancement as soon as it becomes available, eventually swapping out all of my neurons for superior hardware. The rest of my body will also be available for evolution.

I can't wait for The Singularity.

I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Wibbles Since: Jul, 2011
#183: Jan 17th 2012 at 12:05:39 AM

@Lanceleoghauni

Yes, absolutely. The argument that humanity is still bound into a natural cycle is becoming increasingly absurd - in the sense that we're not only consciously capable of manipulating or exceeding any natural environment and also that humanity already is doing this. Humanity found itself outside the boundaries of simple natural selection quite some time ago. The onus now exists for humanity to accept the fact that, collectively, we must harness and control our own evolution.

Oh, that may well sound absolutely wicked, but folks in this thread are already talking about the many different ways in which humans have created artificial tools to overcome natural limitations. Hell, humanity started deviating from pure natural selection once we started using rocks as tools. The different human species have evolved at a progressive rate. Now it's stuck, and frankly something needs to be done about that.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#184: Jan 17th 2012 at 12:56:26 AM

At first I was disturbed at how many people here would like to become cyborg, then I remembered that most tropers are geek. Then I was again disturbed tongue

ForlornDreamer from United States Since: Apr, 2011
#185: Jan 17th 2012 at 12:59:50 AM

Considering the not fatal but really annoying chronic illness I have that incapacitates me for several days of the year, I would in a heartbeat. If I had perfect (well, as close to perfect health as humans come), probably not. Do I have to worry about cyber-brain sclerosis?

edited 17th Jan '12 1:00:09 AM by ForlornDreamer

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#186: Jan 17th 2012 at 2:36:49 AM

This thread: Why I love transhumanism.

Of course I would. We might as well perfect and refine what nature already begun. Might as well firmly establish our superiority as a species by reaching literal perfection. We're far from it now, after all.

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
InverurieJones '80s TV Action Hero from North of the Wall. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
'80s TV Action Hero
#187: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:11:16 AM

The idea that machines are perfect is hilariously deluded. Likewise the idea that a human being has any idea what 'perfection' is.

Transhumanism is just a fantasy of the weak and squashy nerd who feels inadequate and uncomfortable in his own body.

edited 17th Jan '12 3:12:49 AM by InverurieJones

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'
Qeise Professional Smartass from sqrt(-inf)/0 Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Waiting for you *wink*
Professional Smartass
#188: Jan 17th 2012 at 3:30:35 AM

I feel inagequate only because I'm not immortal. I'd likely in the end die due to some kind of an accident, but 10 000 > 120

Laws are made to be broken. You're next, thermodynamics.
Talby Since: Jun, 2009
#189: Jan 17th 2012 at 4:36:45 AM

I was a cyborg for a little while, but I didn't like it so I quit.

Wibbles Since: Jul, 2011
#190: Jan 17th 2012 at 1:45:48 PM

@Inverurie Jones

I don't know where the foundations of your argument - well, baseless condemnation - of transhumanism comes from. It's also difficult to throw anyone who is interested/in favor of controlled human development, whether biological or artificial, into a single pot called transhumanism - the "field", as it were, is as difficult to define and lump folks into as post-structuralism or postmodernism.

Would you mind telling me what this fantasy is, according to your interpretation?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#191: Jan 17th 2012 at 7:05:08 PM

It doesn't have to be perfect to be better than the barely functional bag of meat the human body is.

Fight smart, not fair.
DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#192: Jan 17th 2012 at 7:08:51 PM

I'm going to opt for my natural state, thank you very much. For one, it's impossible to hack a human brain. But more importantly, I'm that oddity of a person that would actually like to die at some point in the future, and I just don't want to be constantly rebuilt.

Octo Prince of Dorne from Germany Since: Mar, 2011
Prince of Dorne
#194: Jan 18th 2012 at 5:51:43 AM

Transhumanism is just a fantasy of the weak and squashy nerd who feels inadequate and uncomfortable in his own body.
Your useless polemics aside - so? If somebody does want to alter and enhance his/her body, why not?

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GreatLich Since: Jun, 2009
#195: Jan 18th 2012 at 8:44:00 AM

Octo and Wibbles, here's a hint:

Octo Prince of Dorne from Germany Since: Mar, 2011
Prince of Dorne
#196: Jan 18th 2012 at 8:48:39 AM

Poe's law. I've seen transhumanism described far too often by pseudo-intellectuals trying to feel smugly superior as "that escape fantasy of the nerds" or "nerd replacement religion with the singularity in place of salvation" etc etc etc

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cygnavamp from Louisiana Since: Oct, 2010
#197: Jan 18th 2012 at 1:10:21 PM

Well, I've already had to have some ribs replaced with a metal plate because they weren't growing the right way. I might consider having my left ear replaced since it tends to "pop" occasionally. (I think it may be due to a case of strep throat I had when I was younger.) If I get another cyst, I'd rather have my ovaries removed than replace them with anything. (Not using them anyway.) Otherwise, nah, I'm cool.

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NateTheGreat Pika is the bombchu! Since: Jan, 2001
Pika is the bombchu!
#198: Jan 18th 2012 at 2:04:03 PM

It might be cool to have cybernetic eye implants. Squint a certain way and a digital picture is taken, the ability to zoom, switching to thermal imaging, etc.

mudshark: I don't expect Nate to make sense, really.
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#199: Jan 18th 2012 at 9:40:13 PM

I wouldn't mind an extra bionic eye, given that the ones I've got right now requires enhancements already (namely spectacles) to perform the basic functions. A bionic eye that can give me the most basic function will be nice.

As for other stuff, well, depends. I'll wait and see when (and if) machines can catch up with the parts that I have.

Transhumanism is just a fantasy of the weak and squashy nerd who feels inadequate and uncomfortable in his own body.

Did you just insult people who had cochlear implants because they are born deaf? And people with heart problems who had pacemakers just to live? And people who have prosthesis to replaces parts they've lost due to accidents?

edited 18th Jan '12 9:40:37 PM by IraTheSquire

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#200: Jan 19th 2012 at 12:18:57 AM

I have to admit, having a set of eyes that actually work properly could be pretty cool. Considering that my eyes have only gotten worse and worse since I turned ten, having a pair with some actual functionality without two giant blocks of glass in front of them might be nice.

edited 19th Jan '12 12:19:54 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.

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