What is the deal with anti-race mixing?

@MGIFS - Your Morak analogy, while entertaining, is flawed. You keep trying to equate modern humanity with some sort of exotic bird. They're not.

And the thing you forget is this; a second-generation American black woman and a second-generation American Asian man; both born and raised in the same city, will make for an excellent pairing. Moreso than that same black woman and a black man from some Canadian suburb.

edited 1st Dec '11 2:22:38 PM by TheStarshipMaxima

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@full of stars:

You're painting an unnecessarily bleak take on miscegenation: Historically, most of the race-mixing taking part after conquest was not rape. Most invading peoples settled on their conquered territory, eventually reaching more or less peaceful coexistence. Typically, the bottom rungs of the dominant group mixed with the mid-to-well-off sections of the conquered group.

All things considered, there's less rape by raiders and more rank-and-file warriors hooking up with merchants/artisans from the conquered group a coupla generations later. In fact, throughout history, tribes have all but intermarried into a single tribe. A few months of raiders raping everything on sight won't do that.

Aside from starving refugees mixing up with their fellow pariahs in the host society, there's been more or less skilled migrants and traders settling outside the traditional lands of their folks... Pretty much since there's trade.

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

Wait, hang on, why do we keep talking about "well, historically...."? Who fucking cares??

We're talking about modern human society. There was a time when one tribe declared war on another because somebody was insulted by the placement of feathers on someone's headress. This was also around the time that the common cold could kill an entire village in under 48 hours.

So, just cause something is retro doesn't make it cool.

It was an honor

I find it funny how racialists assert that it's normal for like to go with like (which I agree with), yet get their knickers in a twist over race-mixing, with the drama llamas and bluestockings amongst their bunch likening it to "genocide". If the preference for a same skin/race partner is so ingrained, why do they get hysterical and butthurt about deviations from the norm?

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Because it clashes with the racialists world views.

"If there is a hole then it's a man's job to thrust into it" - Ryoma from New Getter Robo

Personally, I think it's up to each person. I will probably end up marrying an Italian girl, but more out of culture then anything. Personality is what really matters and two people with the same, or similar, backgrounds will share alot. I wouldn't not date someone because they weren't Italian, but I tend to get along better with people who have the same kinda of family, Which most Italians do. (I don;t know what happen with the retards on Jersey Shore. They got about half of it in them, but must of got dropped on their heads or something)

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@Carc Yeah that triangle's wrong. Mexicans are right in the middle.

"Most studies have shown a European contribution of somewhere between 40-60% and an Amerindian contribution of 40-60%, and an African contribution of 1-5%. Basing an average from admixture levels found in many studies, the European contribution is ~50% and the Amerindian contribution is ~50% in a dual (European-Amerindian) model. A triracial (European-Amerindian-African) model yields an African contribution of ~2.5%, with average European and Amerindian contributions a small amount lower than 50% each."

I'm confused as to where they got their info from. Most of the genetic studies I've read about have said mostly the same thing.(Finds Latin American genetic studies interesting)

edited 2nd Dec '11 2:44:34 AM by TheWesterner

I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.

Jumping in here:

People are threatened by what they don't understand. Race is a social construct. It doesn't exist. Now ethnicity and culture are very real and people are attached to these things devotedly. And with reason. I don't blame them. But it's easy for humans to want to be the best.

I am a white girl. I have dated two Southeast Asians, two Middle Easterners, and currently an African American who I love completely. The only reasons why the other relationships ended were family condemnation over me being white.

This current relationship is wonderful, but I will admit. There are two groups that are equal in their ugliness to us in public: older, Caucasian people, especially women, and young African women. They are just horrid to us sometimes.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur

I wonder if their former church can hide behind the First Amendment if they get sued for violating the Supreme Court ban of anti-miscenegation laws.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw

@TW:[1] This says Latinos are more European than Native American.

TU NE CEDE MALIS CLASS OF 1971

It depends on the area... Most Latinos are mestizos, but the average Latino has more European than Native genes. Still, it's a recent development.

There were a whole lotta of gringos (19th century Euro immigrants to South America) and criollos (mostly-white descendants of earlier settlers).

In certain parts of Central America, a whole lotta folks are basically Maya, and plenty people in Peru are mostly indigenous. Still, 19th century migratory waves were huge, especially in Chile and Argentina. Had they taken these same tests in the 1850s, most Latinos would've been basically Native. In this particular case, it's mostly due to immigration: The 1800s weren't particularly genocidal in South America.

edited 2nd Dec '11 11:46:56 AM by SavageHeathen

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

@tropetown Calm down, broheim. What I meant was is that American blacks who are against interracial relationships are typically against them not because they necessarily hate other races but because they see it as a way of rejecting black heritage and the black race; it's just another way that black people just don't make the cut, so to speak.

I may used the term 'inferiority complex' incorrectly so my mistake. Also, I'm sorry if my statement sounded racist, I'm African American myself.

There's no justice in the world and there never was~

Don't worry I'm black as well and know how easy it is to be well-intentioned while having Unfortunate Implications.

TU NE CEDE MALIS CLASS OF 1971

@The Secretist They are, but I was talking about Mexicans not all Latinos. Sorry, if I wasn't clear about it.

Really it depends on the region you're in. Mexico's more half and half, Argentina and Uruguay's completely white and Bolivia and Guatemala are the closest to all Amerindian countries you can find in the world. Populations are really mixed. We had a confusing caste system because of that.

@Savage Heathen Damn it you ninja'd me,but still for knowing what you're talking about.

Here's a link to this wikipedia page if anyone's interested in reading about it.

edited 2nd Dec '11 1:32:18 PM by TheWesterner

I was wondering why frisbees got bigger as they got closer then it hit me.

Japanese Brazilian I know about this example, because I was studying Shinshukyos and found that they had some followers in Brazil. Apparently, alot of Japanese people were going to temporarily move to Brazil to get jobs, but it turned into a permanent thing.

• Major relgious groups
  • Tenrikyo
  • Sekai Kyusei Kyo or Church of World Messianity
  • Seicho no Ie or House of Infinite Life, Wisdom, Abundance, etc.

edited 2nd Dec '11 2:15:08 PM by secretist

TU NE CEDE MALIS CLASS OF 1971

Aint' that the truth.

@Gabrael - Congrats on you and your guy finding happiness. But (and it pains me to say) you'll find that it is blacks who'll give the two of you the most shit.

As a black American man, I grew up believing that not liking a beautiful woman because of her race was the same as saying Mercedes-Benz luxury cars are shit, because you think "Mercedes-Benz" is a stupid name for a car company. As in, it's so far beyond reason, there's no point arguing.

Needless to say, I'm totally thrown by other black people's reactions to interracial relationships. It's like you either have these pseudo-posers who date outside their race as a point of status. Or you have these pseudo-black-militants who denounce interracial relationships for the reasons KCK pointed out.

And the whole time I'm like "So when does the actual person come into this??

It was an honor

Thank you. Anytime a black girl gives him grief he just has the attitude, "What? You didn't want me."

I think it really helps we are sincerely best friends. So we can survive anything.

I wonder, from talking to his family, which is completely African American, I can't help but feel in our area at least, there is a strong pressure in the African American community to self-segregate for protection and self-preservation. While I understand why this maybe so say a generation or two ago, is this an attitude that still has positive merits today?

The ethnic groups in my community self-segregate more on economic lines first, then ethnic lines second. I know that is a more pronounced factor then people realize.

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur

I know that in my experience, some cultural groups rather their child be gay and with the same ethnicity then be with someone of another faith/culture/ethnicity. I find that to be fascinating.

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It's all good; I was having a pretty bad day when I posted that, so I might have overreacted a bit.

Yeah, I would agree with that. African-Americans tend to self-segregate.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.

African-Americans tend to self-segregate because average Americans look down on them. Even I am guilty of being racist towards black people from time to time. Even though from a realistic standpoint black people are in fact actually superior to white people. Because a black man can survive an entire life-time of hell while a white man can't do so. At least that is the general consensus. I mean if any of us white (most tropers are white) went to Africa then we'd be dead!

Though this is merely cultural and not racial though. I am simply using "White" and "Black" to describe people. Thus a poor white man who lives in the ghetto is "black" and a black man who lives in the suburbs is "white". While I know this sounds anti-rich but most rich people generally have poor personalities and are weak, infantile and stupid (in areas that actually matter).

edited 3rd Dec '11 1:08:28 PM by PinkHeartChainsaw

"If there is a hole then it's a man's job to thrust into it" - Ryoma from New Getter Robo

Meh, it sorta balances out.

• Whites can live under sunlight so dim it'd cause vitamin deficiencies to blacks. When blacks choose to live in those latitudes anyway, they may need to add extra vitamin D, to balance that out.
• Blacks can live under sunlight so bright it'd cause skin cancer to whites. When whites choose to live in those latitudes anyway, we need protection from the sun, to balance that out.

IIRC, blacks have also certain adaptations to warmer climates, and whites have adaptations to colder climates. Everything else being equal, white people tolerate extremely cold days better than black people, and blacks tolerate extremely hot days better than whites.

edited 3rd Dec '11 1:27:10 PM by SavageHeathen

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

That makes a lot of sense. However what does this make out of Asians?

"If there is a hole then it's a man's job to thrust into it" - Ryoma from New Getter Robo

I dunno: Perhaps they ain't adapted to either sunlight extremes, but to other environmental factors instead? Narrower eyes are better for snowy conditions, or for withstanding sandstorms. They're be best adapted to a steppe environment than any other broad racial group, IIRC.

Perhaps most early Asian ethnic groups differentiated on the Asian steppes?

It's worthy of mention that mentally, the same skillset was selected for in all ethnicities, since we all evolved as tribal hunter/gatherers: Creating tools, solving problems, acquiring abstract knowledge, developing complex social relationships. Psychological differences are likely to be cultural: To an extent, black people raised on mostly-white neighborhoods act white, and white people raised in mostly-black neighborhoods act black. It's easier to attribute any deviances to cultural self-segregation rather than to any form of innate difference.

edited 3rd Dec '11 1:41:21 PM by SavageHeathen

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

Yeah. I would be very, very careful before attributing any behavior to racial rather than cultural reasons.

Except for 4/1/2011. That day lingers in my memory like...metaphor here...I should go.