X-Men In General

Well, that has some Power Perversion Potential.

Can that actually happen? I don't know, a super collider or a vibrating chair or something that can vibrate at such frequency it causes the object to shatter, or in this case, blow up?

Vibration always works on sand-based villains, so I assume this: vibrate anything enough and its molecules/atoms just break apart. Gambit, then, has the ability to do this at will.

But then it explodes.

edited 19th May '15 7:30:41 PM by Soble

To put it more scientifically his power excites the molecules of the material until the energy of the object causes spontaneous combustion.

edited 19th May '15 6:04:11 PM by Canid117

After traveling through time and going through hell, she came back and was none too happy that Cyclops was planning on kickstarting his mutant revolution with Matthew Malloy.

Thanks. I stopped reading for a while, because I felt like the story wasn't going anywhere and decided to get back into it before the reboot. The last time I was regularly reading the books, she had a crush on him so it seemed like a big shift to me.

Also, props to Cyclops for being mature in how he handled Xaviers will.

Bleeding Cool strikes again.

Wow, that's a pretty thin connection even for them.

So Bendis has recently said that he didn't give Ilyana a love interest because with her frequent de/re-aging he felt she was mentally too young.

This is going to sound terrible, but my first thought was "Then why did he dress her like that?"

edited 20th May '15 5:21:15 PM by HamburgerTime

because he isn't a writer with good redesigns. also that is bullshit as she did actually age, just in limbo.

Because Mark Bagley can't design costumes for shit

Chris Bachalo designed it, but same point. Bendis didn't dress her that way. Bachalo's not a great costume designer.

That's an interesting reason Bendis gave for Illyana not having a love interest. We've come a long way from the days when a character would be aged-up just to put them in a relationship with an older character. Or when ages would be ignored, so an 18-year-old and a 13-year-old could be in love.

As for UXM#34: Dazzler's pretty awesome. I like that she actually did try to talk to Mystique first. Try to figure out why she's been behaving the way she has. And then boom. Also, Maria Hill is a fan of Dazzler. Have we seen anyone in the MU who isn't a fan of Dazzler?

In fairness, wasn't the second one mostly John Byrne?

Sort of. Byrne set it up. Days of Future Past had them married, and Byrne's final issue had Kitty kiss him on the cheek, with him blushing at it. So he established an attraction. But Byrne left 5 issues after Kitty joined the book. The bulk of the romance was carried out under other artists, and I would guess it was Claremont's idea to keep it going. I'd say the bulk of the responsibility rests with Claremont, since at any time, he could've had Colossus tell her they couldn't date for a few years. Instead, it almost felt, at times, like he thought Colossus should've gone for it, and he had characters as much as say so.

So, yeah, I don't give Claremont a pass on the creepiness of that relationship.

Edit: Also, Byrne was nowhere near when the mutual attraction between Cypher - a high school student - and Psylocke - a women likely in her early 20s - was thrown in. So I'm inclined to think Claremont was at least as bad as Byrne when it comes to liking age-inappropriate romances.

edited 20th May '15 7:40:10 PM by Tiamatty

Did she? When she "died" in the 80s, she was still a teen. She came back due to magic weirdness, but it is really unclear how much time passed for her during that time. Being limbo only makes things more vague. To make mater worse, he soul was not connected to her body.

A similar thing happened to Cypher. We actually know for a fact he didn't age, since he was literally dead and buried all that time. Still, when he came back everyone treats him as if he is as if he was still the same age as his former classmates.

edited 20th May '15 8:37:57 PM by Heatth

Yeah, Illyana's age is complicated. She aged in Limbo, in the '80s. She lived 7 years there. She was de-aged to a child again, at the end of Inferno. Then, a few years later, she died (UXM #303, which was a huge tearjerker issue). When she came back a few years ago, she was grown-up again, though we don't know her exact age, and it's all pretty weird and mystical, so how old she is right now is tough to tell. She certainly seems to think and act like an adult. But I can definitely understand Bendis not wanting to get into it all.

Character Designs are approved by the Editor. The writer may get some input, but the final say always goes to the Editor.

Yeah, Bachalo was who I meant. I think I said Bagley because I associated him with Bendis thanks to their USM work.

Wait, Secret Wars is revisiting the Morrison-era X-Men? How did I not know this until tonight!?

My beloved Beak and Angel, how I've missed you!

Yes, it's called E for Extinction.

Re: Bleeding Cool. What are they smoking? They do know that even if the characters go by a different name (probably something with X, too), they would still be mutants and still be under license at Fox, right? Do they just think that Marvel can change their name and then get the rights back? Are they stupid?

What if they decide to no longer call themselves mutants? They could just take a cue from Strong Guy and call themselves Geecees. (Something to do with 'Genetically Challenged.')

edited 23rd May '15 6:21:00 PM by kkhohoho

Well, 1) that would be stupid and 2) Fox would still hold their license. It doesn't matter what they call themselves, Fox holds all the film rights to the X-Men and ancillary characters, no matter if they actually call themselves X-Men or mutants.

I mean, Fox can still use Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch and they aren't mutants anymore.

edited 23rd May '15 6:06:57 PM by alliterator

True, Marvel can also use them, so long as they aren't called mutants.

BC seems really stuck on the idea that FF ended to spite Fox, and not because everything ended for Secret Wars.

That is because Fox can use the X Men characters as well as the concept of mutants. Marvel Studios, however, can use some X Men characters, as long as they are also Avenges characters, but not the concept of mutants itself.

Anyway, Fox have been using non mutant characters for a long time. Juggernaut is not a mutant, neither are Striker, Trask and others. They are all still X Men characters, because of course they are.

edited 23rd May '15 6:59:54 PM by Heatth

Bleeding Cool is deeply invested in the idea of Marvel wanting to spite Fox. So, to BC, basically every single thing Marvel does involving any of the X-Men or Fantastic Four characters is clearly a swipe at Fox. And they simply ignore anything that runs counter to that narrative. For example, Silver Surfer has A-list talent on it, it's still going strong, and it's one of the few books that's not only not ending for Secret Wars, but it also has its own tie-in that makes it seem like it's going to be fairly important.

But because Fantastic Four ended pretty much exactly when any reasonable person would've expected it to end, that proves that Marvel is trying to destroy the Fantastic Four franchise for some reason.

The dumbest part is when people were thinking the first half of Robinson's run was actually a deliberate plot to destroy the Fantastic Four. Even though anyone with even the slightest knowledge of how storytelling works knew precisely what Robinson was doing.