X-Men In General

Well that's interesting. The artist of the issue showed up at CBR (what possessed me to go back there I'll never know) and he said he "can't confirm whether Elixir is dead or not." Huh. He also claims to really like the character. Yet another example of creators putting characters they like through the wringer, I guess. I wonder why that happens? Bendis is kinda famous for it.

They (the posters, not the artist) also seem to think the monster is a revived Caliban.

edited 25th Dec '14 9:27:02 AM by HamburgerTime

Well, it doesn't really matter how the artist feels about the character, Soule's the one who wrote the scene, so he's the one who decides if Elixir's dead or not.

Even if it turns out Elixir isn't dead, it was still lazy writing on Soule's part, because he still threw Elixir in just to be taken down. He served no other purpose in the story at all, and he felt shoe-horned in just because Soule needed cannon fodder.

Doesn't the new guy triage have elixirs powers but better? So no reason to keep elixir around

He can be kept around because he's pretty cool.

Triage is stronger than Elixir? Surprised to hear that.

Triage was able to bring somebody back to life, albeit kinda like a zombie. His power goes beyond healing, I think he can actually control lifeforce and stuff like that.

It is sad about Elixir if he was just brought out to be killed.

Elixir restored a working heart from nothing before, that's pretty impressive.

So havoc stayed inverted and then joined Scott What affect will this have on uncanny? Guess we'll find out after secret war 3 when bendis finally finishes the Xavier will arc

That scene confused me too.

I wish editorial stopped acting as if Cyclops is this evil person, I mean would Cyclops welcome an inverted Havok?

More people than Remender act like that?

does scott know havok is still evil? he might not know. and i see scott being so happy to have his brother back with him he might not think its because he is still inverted

Given that he's probably going to be the one dealing with it, it's entirely possible Bendis requested this, as well.

Scott would absolutely welcome Havok, inverted or not. Alex is his brother, and Scott's always cared about him.

I am curious how that'll play out, though.

Back to the New X-Men for a second here, I find it interesting how the Hellions Squad has, relatively speaking, caught on more than the New Mutants Squad, the original main characters. There's now only one New Mutant who's both alive and powered, Surge, and she's been mostly wallpaper since the series ended, what roles she does get basically amounting to "huge bitch." Meanwhile, all but two of the Hellions are still alive, and of the two one was the one nobody really cared about and the other had a decent-sized villain role before dying. I wonder why this happened? Were the New Mutant too goody-two-shoes or something?

I wouldn't say that, but they were certainly less ambiguous than the Hellions, Dust aside. Of all of the New Mutants Squad, Surge had the most edge. Everyone else, while likeable and fleshed out, were a bit more clean-cut by comparision, and most of them also looked relativity normal. Whereas with the Hellions, you had two bad-boys, (Hellion and Wither,) a giant pile of rocks with a sense of humour, (Rockslide,) and while Dust and Mercury were pretty nice people, one could still transform into, well, dust, and the other was made out of, well, mercury. Simply put, the Hellions were cooler, which likely helped to make them more popular not just among the fans, but among the writing staff as well.

Guys what if the reason magneto isn't affected by wandas bloodline spell is because he is actually xorn

Everyone is Xorn, didn't you know?

Does this apply to animals too? Because, if I'm Xorn, and that potroast I ate the other night was also Xorn, then that means I ate myself. And Xorn. Weird.

edited 26th Dec '14 9:33:42 PM by kkhohoho

so after reading the all-new annual i am positive that bendis does not understand time travel and that's why he broke time so it could be any way he wanted it. because that's not how time travel works there. her future family shouldnt be gone for good, just in another 2099. like i get its for drama, but still.

Time travel in Marvel comics has always worked however the writer wanted it to work. It was pretty standard for most writers to go with "changing things creates new timelines," but there's been a long history of writers not bothering with that.

And honestly, when a story is as amazing as the one from the Annuals, I'm willing to overlook a lot. Bendis did a brilliant job with the writing, and Sorrentino's art is gorgeous. I don't give a shit if a relatively minor continuity thing had to be ignored, it doesn't hurt the story at all.

yeah the art was good, but its just drama when there shoudnt be any. like even with time being broken and the multiverse dying there's gotta be a universe where she had a history there. and 2099 is an alternate universe too. i just gragh. moffet's timey wimey stuff is better written than that.

Like I said, Bendis is far from the first writer to ignore the "rules" of how time travel works in order to tell what he thought would make a more interesting story. And it was an interesting story. The other way of doing it would've been for her to simply not know how to get back to the same timeline she left, but that wouldn't really have been as effective. So he went with what he figured worked best, and I'm inclined to agree with him. The story was fantastic and heart-breaking and just really well-told, so I don't really care that he ignored the standard method of handling time travel.

The whole "Time breaking" thing seems a little above something Bendis could toss in just to avoid researching time travel continuity. It's building towards some company wide event.

Whoops

edited 30th Dec '14 7:13:18 PM by HamburgerTime