Why, how and When did the Simpsons Jump the Shark???

It has been some time now that it has become clear that the simpsons jumped the sharks.

A few years back I remembered hearing complaints about the worsening quality of the episodes but I made nothing of it cause I still nejoyed them.

Nontheless now I have to admit that the show has gone south... but what amazes me is the sutility with which it declined. As everthing related with the show it was almost sublime.

Now when I see the Jerkass Homer in the new episodes I cant help but to think, what went wrong? When? Why did I not see this coming?

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The Principal and the Pauper, when the show started running on shock value and cheap plot twists and patting itself on the back over how smart it was.

People will give you different answers, but I believe its in some post season 10 episode where Homer got raped by a panda that the show started to nosedive into a downward spiral.

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You yourself said it , there was no jump of the shark the show just declined in quality gradually with no clear boundary. Also, admit it, you watched it so much that you got immunity to its humor so it doesn't get to you as much as before... And the old seasons run on nostalgia filter .

The simpsons has had shock value and plot twists ever since season 1. I mean, we are talking about the show that made Bart join the mafia at season 2 (or 1? or 3? boy, I really don't remember).

It seemed like an attack and not rape, you know. The zookeeper thought they were making babies, but he didn't know it was homer in the panda costume. Animal attacks are distasteful but it would not have been the first time or the last that it happens to homer.

edited 5th Nov '11 6:34:54 PM by nabaduco

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people have diffent opinions jumping the shark is subjetive.

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edited 5th Nov '11 5:03:57 PM by nabaduco

A lot of forums still do. This one just never did.

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It jumped the shark figuratively around the point of the Tomacco,literally I'd say it jumped either in the episode "Kill the Alligator and Run" (Replace jumping the shark with running over the alligator) or that episode where Homer disowns Santa's Little Helper and it ends with a shark getting drunk (Replace jumping in this case with boozing the shark)

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I also think of Homer getting raped by a giant panda as the turnover point.

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I gotta agree that it was that panda episode. I remember seeing it when it was first on and being disgusted, and I pretty much stopped watching the show after that (know it's been what, like 10 seasons since then?). It's not completely cause and effect, but that episode definitely made me think something was really "off" compared to earlier episodes.

BTW, I actually like the episode with the evil elf jockeys. Not sure if that was before or after the panda rape episode though. If after, I recognize kind of hurts my point.

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After hearing so much fuss over that infamous "panda rape" scene, I had to check it out for myself.

What the fuck.

How...how is it possible to construe that as anal rape? Yes, it looks like anal rape, in the sense that CPR does. But the joke there is that the panda is choking Homer who in turn is choking a panda. The fact that everybody has unanimously decided that the panda is raping Homer when it clearly wasn't saddens me deeply. It's like everybody is looking for reasons to start hating shows.

This is it right?

edited 6th Nov '11 2:09:11 PM by Sabertooth1000000000

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No, I don't think that's it. I believe in the infamous scene, Homer was in a panda costume.

edited 6th Nov '11 2:25:12 PM by Jordan

Hodor

Oh. I'm sorry then. So how come whenever I search "The Simpsons panda rapes Homer" this is all I find? You'd think I would find the more well-known scene.

edited 6th Nov '11 2:28:06 PM by Sabertooth1000000000

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No that's not the scene... there is an episode where Pandas get donated to the Zoo and I think someone dares him to go into the enclosure wearing a panda costume or something and the male panda gets amorous with him and drags him into a cave. I cant find a video of it that doesn't require a login but the episode is called "Homer vs Dignity" if you want to watch it and have access to it on Netflix or something.

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The reason you can't find the scene is that there is no scene of a panda raping homer. It happens in the background and I really don't see why we are supposed to assume it is rape and not yet another case of a raging animal attacking homer (or maybe the Spanish dub censors some sounds that would make it clearer?). Edit: ok, so here is a talk about the commentary: https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/tag/homer-vs-dignity/ .It seems the creators really intended it to be rape. So, yeah, let me join the side that claims it is the official DMOS. However, most 2000s episodes are bad like that. The show did rebound slightly some years after.

What happens is that Mr Burns pays homer money to be his personal clown. Eventually Mr. Burns donates a panda to the zoo. It was homer in a panda costume. At first, Homer's mission was to dance in front of the public and make them very impressed. Then the male panda comes and he looks pissed. Homer tries to escape and then the zookeeper puts on a curtain and says that the male panda asked the other panda out. Everyone goes AWWWW. While we can hear the panda roaring.

edited 6th Nov '11 4:37:42 PM by nabaduco

Not sure but the episode where Apu got quintuplets was kinda the point for me where I started to think the scripts were getting a bit too over the top and forced in their wackiness. A lot of episodes at that point seemed to have a similar problem, they started off good then have really silly abrupt endings (eg. 'Hey everybody, surf's up'). Homer vs Dignity started off funny but then it sorta drifted off, I wasn't even that jarred by the panda rape but it just seemed at that point the episode stopped being that witty.

Shortly following that the whole episodes started to get too nonsensical and dumb.

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Yeah, that's worse.

I remember thinking that the series was beginning to lag around the Homerpalooza one, but even then, there could be good episodes. Even recently, the Treehouse episode were usually decent enough, but I hated this year's one so much after the non stop fart jokes so I just didn't bother.

Homer kind of deserved that. Choking pandas isn't funny.

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Doesn't the episodes with Jockey-Elves come before that? Because that's the jumping point for me, when it changed from a dramatic comedy to a wacky adventure show.

edited 7th Nov '11 5:50:22 AM by eX