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Auxdarastrix Since: May, 2010
#26: Nov 11th 2011 at 4:16:45 AM

Madrugada, would you like to take on fixing the example section as far as reorganizing it and cutting bad examples? Between Or Is It cleanup, creating spin off tropes for other tropes that have been under repair, and school work, I have a lot on my hand.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#27: Nov 11th 2011 at 6:55:26 AM

I can do some of it, but I don't know most of the works listed.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Sledgesaul Since: Oct, 2011
#28: Nov 18th 2011 at 9:25:32 AM

IF this trope is about being beautiful and luxurious, would the Kuchiki clan count?

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
I see the Awesomeness.
#29: Nov 19th 2011 at 12:29:40 AM

Don't know, can you give us a picture?

Fight smart, not fair.
peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#30: Nov 20th 2011 at 12:16:27 PM

To Kukichi clan, I'd say "no".

atheywa from Thurston Co. WA, USA Since: Oct, 2009
#31: Dec 28th 2011 at 6:43:23 PM

I think it's worded much better then it used to be. We're ready to close this now, right? We can delete the examples that don't fit as we find them.

NoirGrimoir Rabid Fujoshi from San Diego, CA Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Rabid Fujoshi
#32: Jan 6th 2012 at 3:13:57 AM

So, close on this?

SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#33: Jan 6th 2012 at 6:49:56 AM

Examples still need to be cleaned up. I did the ones I know, but there are still entries that are simply "really, really pretty" without touching on whether the other aspects — a fabulous life, fabulous wealth, fabulous home, fabulous everything are present. I've starred the thread.

Wicks need to be checked as well, with the tighter definition in mind.

edited 6th Jan '12 6:51:19 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34: Jan 19th 2012 at 8:43:29 AM

I cleaned up the page, although I think it still might need trimming.

I think it would be best to switch the current name with its redirect. Judging by the examples, people seem to think it means 'beautiful cast, toss everything attractive in.'

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#35: Jan 19th 2012 at 9:17:55 AM

That might be a good idea. It certainly couldn't hurt. We still may get faulty examples, but at least there would be fewer of them, because it's harder to justify calling something like "The cast of Supernatural " "elite".

edited 19th Jan '12 9:18:17 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#36: Jan 19th 2012 at 12:22:16 PM

Perhaps this trope should be renamed to The Glamorous People? It's not just focusing on that everyone is attractive (which is a way this trope is usually misused), it means they live a glamorous life, too.

tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#37: Jan 19th 2012 at 12:54:17 PM

Given that The Beautiful People is a pretty widespread term for this trope out in the real world, I'd argue against renaming except as a last resort.

Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Hurler of Swine
#38: Jan 19th 2012 at 2:29:04 PM

Redirects are free, though.

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39: Jan 21st 2012 at 5:52:13 AM

We can switch to The Beautiful Elite and leave The Beautiful People as the redirect. With the current name, misuse has been rampant. There were plenty of entries such as 'Everyone in work X', even when the work features characters of completely different social standing. There were even examples about homeless mercenaries and character designs. At least with The Beautiful Elite we can reduce this kind of misuse.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
atheywa from Thurston Co. WA, USA Since: Oct, 2009
#40: Jan 31st 2012 at 5:00:20 PM

The edits that have been made are good but I don't think this trope is a priority any longer. Only so many TRS are allowed and I think it's about time to make room for others.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#41: Jan 31st 2012 at 5:11:26 PM

Is the work done? Leaving a page half-fixed is pointless.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42: Feb 1st 2012 at 10:52:36 AM

Would it be acceptable to make an Alternative Title Crowner to swap with the redirect? This seems to be the only remaining issue at hand, unless there's something else about this trope we must tend to.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
LouieW Loser from Babycowland Since: Aug, 2009
Loser
#43: Feb 2nd 2012 at 10:54:27 AM

Given that there has been some opposition to a rename in this thread, I think it would make more sense to start with a single proposition rename crowner first, so there is now one of those here. I might be wrong about that though.

The Beautiful People found in: 414 articles, excluding discussions.

Since January 1, 2011 this article has brought 344 people to the wiki from non-search engine links.

edited 2nd Feb '12 10:54:42 AM by LouieW

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#44: Feb 2nd 2012 at 11:07:12 AM

The Beautiful Elite sounds more to the point. I like it.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#45: Feb 2nd 2012 at 12:01:32 PM

I've hooked the crowner, and removed the "consensus reached; work remains to be done" asterisk from the thread.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#46: Feb 6th 2012 at 6:49:43 AM

Bumping for votes, although the crowner seems pretty stable.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#47: Feb 9th 2012 at 1:42:14 PM

Can we call this? It seems rename is supported greatly.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#48: Feb 9th 2012 at 3:07:33 PM

Calling in favour of a rename.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Tahaneira Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
#49: Feb 9th 2012 at 3:48:50 PM

So now we gather names. Uncanny Beauty?

lebrel Tsundere pet. from Basement, Ivory Tower Since: Oct, 2009
Tsundere pet.
#50: Feb 9th 2012 at 3:52:30 PM

[up] This trope is not about beauty alone. The Beautiful Elite sounds good.

Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.

AlternativeTitles: TheBeautifulPeople
9th Feb '12 9:15:10 PM

Crown Description:

Previous crowner showed consensus support for a rename.

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