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UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#177: Apr 10th 2012 at 12:10:03 AM

Not unless the universe you are talking about is a story created by someone.

Occam's Razor is a principle for developing theories based on the idea that they should make the smallest logical leaps.

The Law of conservation of Detail is a fictional principle based on the idea of not making your story to complicated.

The only overlap I can see is when you're developing a theory based on the story's developments / the author's intentions.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
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#179: Apr 10th 2012 at 7:13:36 AM

Say in fiction there's a murder and no one knows who did it in story, but it's very likely it's one of the introduced characters. While in real life not so much.

Although most murders are committed by friends and family. So depending on how close you are to the victim you may know the killer.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#180: Apr 10th 2012 at 7:58:08 AM

/coughs

So, anyway, I'm personally betting on a magical psychosomatic pregnancy, on the basis that I don't think she going to be effectively removed from the story just yet and therefore needs a way to get her powers back.

And because having the main character impregnate a loli in a very literal sense might be pushing the limits of what they can get away with.

edited 10th Apr '12 7:58:17 AM by Gilphon

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#181: Apr 10th 2012 at 8:09:26 AM

Ohhh it was an accident.

She breeds like bunnies.

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Divinekine Since: Nov, 2010
#182: Jun 7th 2012 at 11:18:55 AM

Welp after waiting a while chapters 8 and 9 are up and translated [URL="http://www.mangahere.com/manga/big_order/c008/"]here[/URL]

Some interesting developments this time around. Seems Rin won't be getting rid of her Eiji kiling mantra anytime soon like I'd hoped but at least it turned out to be somewhat useful this time around. Also interesting to see that we got a red herring as far as who was eaking out information but Hiiragi still comes across as being too suspicious. Was also nice to see Eiji dealing with some of the hatred people have for him from the disaster and it;s cool to see him staying resolute in spite of that. Hopefully he won't be forced to tread any deep moral territory anytime soon.

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#183: Jun 7th 2012 at 11:55:16 AM

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That last part would be nice, but let's be honest.

He won't be that lucky. The kid will have to make some tough choices during this story.

I'm still wondering about the legitimacy of whether he's really responsible for what happened or not.

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Divinekine Since: Nov, 2010
#184: Jun 7th 2012 at 1:33:00 PM

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I personally don't think he is. I don't see a wish to "rule the world" matching with the world being mostly destroyed. Hopefully we'll get some clarity on that soon.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#185: Jun 7th 2012 at 2:51:13 PM

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I just had a dark thought:

What if the destruction of the world was a part of his wish, but not in the way we considered.

What if Ruling the world at the time when he made the wish was impossible unless something happened to change it over time, allowing events to slot into place so he could get his wish.

In other words, the events of the Manga are Eiji's wish being granted, as he'll eventually earn back the trust of the people, while defeating the evil order users, and creating the safe world for his sister that he wants.

He really did destroy the world, and he doesn't even know it.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#186: Jun 7th 2012 at 6:02:54 PM

Hmm. I was just thinking that we seemed overdue for a new chapter.

Nuking him right off the bat like this- wonder how they'll keep tension in the series after that.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
Conceptually Frameworked
#188: Jun 8th 2012 at 1:47:13 AM

Yeah, I kinda feel we've jumped straight to over-the-top battles and an over-powered protagonist when more story building would have been nice first.

I mean, to start with I'm still having trouble understanding what the limits of Eiji's power are.

You know what though? In spite of the little development they've gotten so far, I like the characters.

Must be because they're some kind of compound of a heap of character types from other works. Seemingly the good elements though.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
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#189: Jun 8th 2012 at 1:58:31 AM

[up] Eiji's limits so far are simply his territory and the extent to which he can manipulate those inside it.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#190: Jun 8th 2012 at 2:21:23 AM

Well, he can give absolute commands better than Lelouch with Geass in both eyes, throw up a barrier like he's a Kekkaishi and appears to command servant Assassin. Plus he can levitate objects like a wizard and probably change them like an alchemist. And that's only what he's thought of doing so far.

He's got more power than most heroes get in their entire series is what I'm saying I guess.

edited 8th Jun '12 2:21:44 AM by UltimatelySubjective

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Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#191: Jun 8th 2012 at 4:18:26 AM

I'd bet that, within his territory, he's a full-fledged Reality Warper.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#192: Jun 8th 2012 at 4:54:53 AM

I guess there's probably a limit to how complex the things he can do are. That would be why healing his sister is beyond him.

Plus while he can manipulate other order users he can't manipulate their powers directly.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
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#193: Jul 17th 2012 at 9:15:55 PM

The 9th chapter has been out a while.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#194: Jul 17th 2012 at 10:00:24 PM

It was scanlated on the same day as the chapter before it, so everyone's seen it already.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#195: Sep 5th 2012 at 8:55:19 PM

This manga still exists.

Chapter 10 now up on Manga reader.

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#196: Sep 6th 2012 at 12:10:22 AM

Benkei is on Eiji's side, and comes off as a decent guy. I am immediately suspicious. Eiji going out and stopping a damn nuke was just a feint. Sucks to be you, kid. Iyo has a prophetic pregnancy, and totally-not-evil-looking-guy can apparently cut holes in space. All good to know.

UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#197: Sep 6th 2012 at 12:14:26 AM

I can't be the only one finding this manga a little messy. It's like the whole thing is one long action scene... With quite a few 3 month breaks in between.

But still, I look forward to more fleshing out of the concept.

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."
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#198: Sep 6th 2012 at 12:19:02 AM

It certainly feels like it's trying to be high stakes and intense all the time, which is hard to maintain with the long breaks.

EHK Happy Christmas! from EAST ALWAYS EAST Since: Mar, 2010
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#199: Sep 6th 2012 at 8:56:52 PM

I'm fine with that though. Makes each and every chapter rather entertaining with things always happening. I'm sure it will calm down sooner or later.

A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
UltimatelySubjective Conceptually Frameworked from Once, not long ago Since: Jun, 2011
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#200: Sep 6th 2012 at 9:20:27 PM

I'd rather have it plotted out well in advance.

It feels more like this story is trying to keep up the pace by ending every sentence with "suddenly".

"Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri, quo me cumque rapit tempestas, deferor hospes."

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