How do you feel about Uni-sex Bathrooms?

i think its a stupid idea and that it is just sexual harassment and in serious cases rape waiting to happen. the reason is because as it is now in most places if a woman realizes a man is in there she realizes shes in danger thats not so if its uni-sex.

you see when one has their pants down on a toilet in a stall they are much more vulnrable. so even in the middle of no where a guy could prepare himself by the sink and tell if she is armed or not easily because most people keep guns tucked in their pants also he has a chance to kick away a purse incase theirs a weapon in there and their down and then when she turns around to flush he kicks in the door, throws his arm around her neck, pull her back, and...

and im not going farther than that, least to say this is actually my reason but i was trying to be subtle about it until now

edit: oh gawd this is like some astronautsversuscavemen debate... i just realized how stupid for or against uni sex bathrooms is... why did we even start all this?

edit: sorry the trope is CavemenVsAstronautsDebate, my bad

edited 8th Oct '11 11:46:27 PM by jasonwill2

That scenario seems both rather unlikely, and just as easy to pull off when in segregated bathrooms as unisex.

People are indeed vulnerable in a toilet stall, which is why it's handy that the things have lockable doors. If your toilet doors are so flimsy you can kick them in with a single blow I don't think unisex toilets are the worst of the problem.

And, well, not everything in OTC has to be a massive heated argument. Sometimes people just start a thread to ask for people's opinions on something and the conversation bobs along reasonably peacably.

I would be okay if there also was a gender separated bathroom. I'd really be afraid of rape or something like that. I know that's paranoid, but that's just how I am. Also it depends on what kind. if it's the kind with a shower, then no, but if it's just public bathrooms, then I'd be alright I guess.

Good God man you clearly have a shift key, use it for things besides yelling!

Yeah, while the equality thing isn't a big selling point for me, I don't really see an issue with any other advantage pointed out. I don't think I'd advocate for them, except possibly for colleges looking to maximize dorm efficiency, but I'm hardly opposed to them either.

You're right to point out that rape would be mostly likely carried out by a straight person just by dint of statistics, but there's no reason why a bathroom unisex or otherwise would be more likely a spot for rape than any public space.

When people get raped in bathrooms, the building the bathroom in tends to contribute to the rape more than the symbol on the door.

My (small, art school) college has only unisex bathrooms. its not that big a deal after the first time which is weird. there are urinals and stalls, but the urinals are on the other side of the stalls, the ladies just don't go to the back of the room where they are. We've never had problems with rape or anything.

I think I (and others) may have noticed a trend that women's rooms tend to be in worse shape than the men's. If the average lady could clean up her act, I'd be ambivalent. As it stands, the only unisex toilets that I've got any sort of familiarity with are frequently filled with shit and vomit by the homeless or other unsavoury types.

edited 3rd Dec '11 3:42:30 AM by ekuseruekuseru

Unisex bathrooms are actually very common in Europe. I'm completely cool with them.

Maybe men and women will be cleaner about their business if they had to share the same washroom space?

These silly rape arguments make the implication that there's a serial rapist lurking around every corner where men and women are allowed to integrate. If that is a case, it's a miracle that I and most people I know have survived unmolested to this day.

Also, most rapes are committed by people whom the victim knows, so it's even more unlikely that there would be a rapist waiting around the corner just because you decide to use a unisex public bathroom.

edited 3rd Dec '11 7:30:34 AM by annebeeche

You'd be surprised—and most certainly dismayed—given US rape statistics.

Still, that wouldn't be why I take issue with unisex bathrooms, if I took issue at all with them...

"Unisex bathrooms are actually very common in Europe."

I haven't traveled to all of Europe, but certainly to enough countries to seriously doubt this.

Now given, I've only had cursory visits to Germany, the UK, and a few smaller countries on the fringes of the EU, but I never saw a uni-sex bathroom.

All the same, I'm still for them, simply because in my time of cleaning bathrooms when I worked in fast food I always found the womens restroom to be the more disgusting one, and maybe they'll police that shit if they know that potential mates are around.

That and I'm sick of it being seen as the sacred garden of Eve where women can go to gossip and take fucking forever. It's not the War Room at NORAD, it's a god damn bathroom. Shit and gtfo.

Fuck that. We want our privacy to talk shit without you men around.

I imagine it's probably irritating for the cleaning crews. Oh well. I don't really care about that.

~shrug~

My current position on this amounts to "well, it would be kind of awkward, but whatever, I guess I could deal with it."

You gonna dislocate those shoulders, mang.

inorite?

What is with people going to the toilet to do anything other than their business, anyway? If unisex toilets become prevalent, the correct procedure would be to convert everything into a men's room, urinals, rules-of-conduct, and all.

edited 3rd Dec '11 9:17:53 PM by ekuseruekuseru

Actually, given how most public bathrooms seem to be set up, it might simply be easier to knock walls down and connect the men's and women's rooms together as one big old bathroom.

In a lot of places, this would basically keep them separate anyway, too, and probably wouldn't change anything... hm...

As for places that would be built after hypothetically changed it, yeah, they'd kind of look like men's rooms with the urinals, but they'd ideally have more stalls than the average men's room for the women...

No. Nononononono. We can't let you men know our secrets.

But the first time one of them opens that little treasure chest meant for used pads/tampons would be the best. Do you really want to live your life without hearing "I wonder what's in— OH DEAR GOD" at least once?

edited 3rd Dec '11 10:34:23 PM by Bur

Meh, been there done that, only it was them being left in the toilets and such.

Women have extremely poor bathroom etiquette.

I mean come on, for us it's just the place we piss, that's all. We go in, don't make eye contact, wash our hands, and gtfo. It's a latrine, not a conference room.

edited 4th Dec '11 12:02:07 AM by Barkey

Yeah, but that's because you guys don't have to worry about whether or not your lipstick has worn off, and/or your hair is in disarray.

Well, not most of us.

You'd be surprised at how often longhaired males have to try and fix teir hair while they're on a drinking binge, if they want to avoid looking like shit. Still, there's male bathroom etiquette even for that: If at all possible, you stand two steps behind the fucking mirror, letting people wash their hands/snort their coke without interference. You try to get your hair into shape and you get the fuck away as soon as you're finished.

I can't begin to describe how much more practical my current buzz cut is.

edited 4th Dec '11 9:09:05 AM by SavageHeathen

I do not like.

In the words of the great Kelso " Oh,I like to pretend they don't do that (poop)."

I'm pretty meh about them. I mean segregated toilets are kinda "if it ain't broke" in my view. So I see no real reason for these kinds of bathrooms to become common. That said if it did, I guess I would just get on with it and deal with it.

edited 5th Dec '11 3:51:15 PM by HellmanSabian

Gender neutral bathrooms are important for creating a safe environment for gender variant people.