Todd In The Shadows Thread

The upcoming couple of Trainwreckords and OHW are requests.

edited 17th Jun '18 2:21:23 PM by Motyka5

oh god that overhyped piece of trash i can't wait to see it get a roasting

Overhyped? The record that contains an embarassing amount of bloat, is pointed to usually as one of the key things that lead to Britpop's demise and has had numerous retrospectives after on why it was initially vastly overrated is what you still consider overhyped?

it was very overhyped at the time then people heard it and yeah.

I do remember Todd was once asked if he preferred Blur or Oasis and he pretty much said that The first two Oasis albums > Blur > The rest of Oasis discography, concluding that he liked Blur more.

edited 17th Jun '18 7:42:16 PM by Smasher

ok that seems fair

What's important is that Gorillaz > both.

Anyway:

Well that sells it, Oasis are pure 100% Hendrix Clause.

Liked the Phantom Menace comparison and the short song hype. (And I'm still up for a Trainwreckord on Let It Be, by the way.)

Too bad no other requests were made for Trainwreckords. OHWL is just more interesting to most people, I guess. (And I bet Aldric would pay the $300 for Todd to do a One Hit Wonderland about Vanilla Fudge.)

edited 17th Jun '18 9:10:22 PM by Smasher

I imagine Trainwreckords might also be getting less requests because it's a less intuitive concept. In my experience, most people don't pay much attention to the distinctions among a band's albums, whereas individual songs tend to have a lot of strong feelings attached to them. There are also only a small number of videos so far to demonstrate what Todd is thinking of for career-killing albums.

I just noticed the Reality Subtext of Todd's previous OHW.

Near the end of his discussion of Everything But The Girl, he points out that the two primary members eventually got married, and then acknowledges that they had been a couple for a long time but had never shared anything about their personal lives with the public.

The fact that the review was posted only a few days before he attended Lindsay Ellis's wedding may not have been coincidence.

What's the Hendrix Clause?

IIRC, a case when the artist is technically a one-hit wonder but because of their cultural impact, they can't really be considered such.

Yep.

It got it's name from Todd's Bait-and-Switch "Float On" review where he said this:

"But wait," I hear some of you asking, "would you really count Modest Mouse as a one-hit wonder?" Sure, they only had one song that cracked the Hot 100, but by the same metric, Jimi Hendrix or Frank Zappa would be one-hit wonders. And usually, the term signifies not just limited chart success, but also relevance and influence; and Modest Mouse are indie rock legends with tons of fans and critical acclaim up the yin-yang, not to mention several other songs that made it onto the Alternative charts.

And the name just stuck. So wrt OHW, it refers to the band that technically had only one top 40 hit, but has critical acclaim and influence (and other charting hits) in other spheres as well.

It's kind of cut and loose though (especially with Creator Provincialism in full swing), since even outside of Butthole Surfers which was special case request from his title card artist, he did cover "Word Up" by Cameo and I personally would consider Cameo a Hendrix Clause just due to their sheer, ongoing influence in black music circles.

edited 18th Jun '18 4:49:53 AM by PippingFool

April Foolz Bitches!

I loved how salty the comments section was for that one

Float On is legit probably my second favourite review of his behind Wiggle tbh.

Float On was just... such a glamorous piece of 70s cheese.

Really, Jimi Hendrix is a one hit wonder? How does that happen?

Him dying really young had something to do with it

Ah... well... that explains a lot.

Still makes more sense than bans like the Ramones being no-hit wonders

I'd say Oasis's lack of chart success was more due to that late 90s thing where songs from an album would get released for radio airplay without ever being released as singles, and Billboard only decided years later to include radio airplay as criteria in their charts. Todd's complained about that before.

If Wikipedia is to be believed, if the changes Billboard made in December 1998 had been in effect back then, Champagne Supernova would have been a #20 hit at minimum, with a few other songs barely cracking the top 40. Or maybe not, since there would have been a lot of other songs to consider alongside them.

edited 18th Jun '18 10:03:35 AM by FalconPain

The Hendrix Clause is named because Hendrix is the worst offender of a One Hit Wonder being more known for the "wonder" than the "one hit".

Also, even though Weezer are a Hendrix Clause, I'd rather see a OHWL on Beverly Hills than a Trainwreckords on Make Believe.

edited 19th Jun '18 12:20:46 AM by Smasher

That's true, the most I know about Hendrix is that he is a guitar rock legend.

oasis a one hit wonder

ha ha ha ha ha ha no.....

yes i am aware you are likely talking stateside but no just.....no

They are technically a one-hit wonder. Charts, man. Charts.

Which really just shows the limitations of only looking at the charts. A band's success is more than just scoring a hit song.

Hence, why I think this part of the spiel from "Float On" is the most pertinent for OHW.

And usually, the term signifies not just limited chart success, but also relevance and influence

(Of course Creator Provincialism and Big in Japan is in full swing here. Midnight Oil are super influential in the Australian Music Scene, for instance.)