So, is CN out of their Dork Age yet?

I guess I don't really understand TDI. I mean, there's already other animated reality tv shows (a concept in and of itself I can't understand) that do it better, like Drawn Together or Life's A Zoo.

Don't mean to nitpick, but that's a contradiction. If a lot of people can't grasp a type of humour from shows that are SUPPOSED to appeal to a wide brand of audience, then it fails as a show that is trying to get massive numbers of fans, although if your goal is to get a moderate number of fans then it does that pretty well. What I can't stand about Regular Show (I used to really like it too) and those cartoons that follow all have a sort of Follow the Leader smell behind it, like the network only sees what is popular and want to exploit that as much as possible for rating grabs.

edited 24th Sep '11 9:24:49 PM by ninjaclown

They'll always be something holding CN back with its current leadership and thought pattern, especially when it comes to them wanting to be like Nick and/or Disney (Who both are beyond reasonable repair, so why would anyone want to be like them?! They're a hnidrance to true animation/emntertainment in the West overall, sans Pixar and and some of disny's movies like Tangled, for example), no matter how much actually decent to awesome fare they put out.

And No, I'm not saying names of stuff I watch and/or enjoy from them now, compared to years ago when I had reasons to disown them. I just know what's from them now for the most part is the bee's kness compared to 98% of the shit Nick & Disney (sans Pixar and Certain good efforts from Disney themselves theatrically) be cooking up for us as "entertainment".

That statement ALSO goes for current generation anime to name an outside entity. Then again, I've made it clear I dislike 98% of anime anyway as a whole (in past posts), if only because I like to think I see mpost of the lesser fare for what it truly is to me... But I'll be dead on my ass before I go into this one - that will be for another day...

Thoguh to offer a solution, instead of bickering and ranting like I have nothing better to do: Just get rid of the live action, stop trying to be as worthless as Nick/Disney have become as kid's channels, and MOST OF ALL remember - cartoon is not a four-letter word, especially your action cartoons, which they're treating kinda badly... There might be some hope. Things just aren't happening here as fast as we'd like.

edited 24th Sep '11 10:24:09 PM by LostAnarchist

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I'm going to say that CN is still in the dork age, because they think Viewers Are Goldfish. All they got is badly animated shows (Johnny test, Sidekick, The Problem Solverz, and The Amazing World Of Gumball) and that stuff makes me want to kill myself for how bad they are. Cant CN just find shows that are NOT from Canada? Nothing agaisnt the Canadians, its just that most of these shows are fillers and it isn't hard to see why. The only good shows that I know that are made in Canada are Ed Edd N Eddy and My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic.

Also, it doesn't take a genius to tell that putting live-action material on a channel that has the word "Cartoon" in it is a bad idea. They shouldn't even have live-action to begin with. Who the hell is funding for this crap anyways? The only way I can see CN getting fixed is that they remove all live-action material, have good quality animated shows that are entertaining, remove the shows that nobody even cares(Like Johnny Test and Problem Solverz), let more than one show have merchandizing(I see a lot of insane stuff of Adventure Time, but what about something like Sym Bionic Titan? Give the other shows stuff!), and approve of shows that aren't like acid trips.

I approve of dropping the Viewers Are Goldfish attitude towards viewers, regardless of age and gender. It's insulting, rage inducing, and it's going to ultimately cripple them (Like it has Nick/Disney's TV regimes for the most part).

I also approve of NOT relying on Canada as a crutch, if only to create animation jobs HERE in the US, where jobs in things like this, for example, are desperately lacking! I know money is an issue in animation (Provided you don't throw it around to hide shit and hire commitees who think the same as execs who think of viewers as retarded fish), but I don't want our (The US's) main media in the current generation to be nothing but cop shows and disdain-for-humanity inducing reality TV and Sitcoms!

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Don't care about US jobs. But seriously, Canada should stop making animation

To me, the only types of Canadians that should do animation are the ones would deliver the best. That are willing to do something different rather than following the success and do things outside the box for cartoons. I know the old saying "you can't please everybody" but most of the Canadian cartoons are so damn terrible. As I said, the only Canadian that makes something good is Danny Antonucci's Ed Edd N Eddy. Are the Canadians cheap? They must be considering the fact that most of their toons are recycled crap we've seen millions of times.

Also, I have a hunch that Antonucci is disgusted on how the animation is done in Canada more than whats going on here in America.

No. It's not. While it has like, what, two good shows on it? There's waaaaaaayyy too much crap on it for it to be out of the Dork Age. And also, they need to cut out the live action crap.

edited 25th Sep '11 8:46:19 AM by Marioguy128

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CN Real didn't just turn viewers off and nurtured their Dork Age even more. It also drove away most of their best creative talent, like Genndy, Lauren Faust, and Craig Mc Cracken. ...you know... those unimportant people who CHANGED THE GAME FIELD OF WESTERN ANIMATED CARTOONS ON THE NETWORK AND HELPED BOOST THEIR RATINGS?!?!? ...... execs.

I can tell you one thing for certain that I hate nearly everything on CN now. And it aint the canadian shows either, it seems that CN is being run by a person who doesn't know a thing or two about good cartoons(like rejecting the Plastic Man pilot over Johnny Test. Really? Now thats cold).

Are there any good animation studios that are willing to work for CN that are NOT canadian? Like say somewhere in the California part of it?

Don't studios in CA also produce cartoons for CN? Adventure Time and Regular Show are both conceived, designed, and laid out there. MAD is created by several studios around the nation, some of which are in CA.

Last time I checked, CN does have a studio. But I was talking about studios to make the cartoons for them. Example being like the studio that made Courage The Cowardly Dog was located in New York city.

I'm getting the feeling they MIGHT be pulling themselves out of it. The Canadian garbage needs to be gotten rid of, along with Johnny Test and their live-action shows.

I consider Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Gumball to be their best so far.

And for future reference, Gumball's an export from the UK, for those of you who might be thinking its Canadian.

edited 25th Sep '11 10:55:17 AM by TheFreeman

The Looney Tunes Show is produced by Warner Bros. animation, but the animation is outsourced of course. There are rumors of a second season.

You know what would be good? If they would air Tiny Toon Adventures on CN again. I think it did good the first time they aired it on CN.

Hasnt CN real block defunct like for a year now?

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I dont think Adventure Time has much similarities to Regular Show. AT takes place in a more mystical, almost medevial time period (with kings, princesses, and such), while Regular Show takes place in the modern day. Also, RS is about mundane things like table hockey or prank calls being brought to epic proportions (illegal underground table hockey tournaments, sending people back in time via a call), while AT characters are pretty much used to the surreal setting. Theyre both good shows (i prefer RS admittedly) but not clones of one another. As for the original question, yes CN has improved by leaps and bounds. Now all they need to do is stop the constant reruns.

edited 25th Sep '11 1:34:01 PM by Hadley

I like that they are now aring classic Looney Tunes and Tom And Jerry reruns.

edited 25th Sep '11 1:38:36 PM by dmysta3000

x10. These people changed CN and made it known, but whoever is running the place hates good animation. And not giving respect for Genndy is proof of that by bumping off a good show(FOR ONCE ON CN!) and replacing it with with this inexcusable crap.

As for other studios. I know for a fact that Sym Bionic titan was made at a different studio that was handled by Genndy, but sadly though it closed down after the show was canceled. I thought Genndy had his own studio but I could easily be mistaken. The studio that made Superjail made that Robot show. I dont remember the name though. I guess its safe to say that if your not counting the different animated segments from CN's Mad show, CN doesn't have a lot of studios to make shows for them.

Although mostly only Bugs and Daffy shorts. Heck, I don't think they even show Pepe's shorts (Probably because of the stupid Moral Guardians), which annoys me because he is my favourite Looney Tunes!

edited 25th Sep '11 1:50:46 PM by Bat178

I don't know if they're quite out of their Dork Age yet. Sure they have Adventure Time, Regular Show, The Amazing World of Gumball, and Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated which are all very good shows, but they also have some of the mass-produced Canadian flash-animated garbage like Johnny Test, Almost Naked Animals, and Sidekick which are all abysmal shows that are as bland as ever, have terrible low budget animation, and hideously unfunny humor that relies on nothing but fart jokes, pop cultural references, and toilet humor which insult the viewer's intelligence. And then It Gets Worse with the dreaded Problem Solverz which literally gives me a headache with it's abysmal animation that looks like it was made on Microsoft Paint and the character designs which are an absolute eyesore. Sidekick is not well known at all yet and most of the people that know about it hate it, and Problem Solverz and Almost Naked Animals have been critically panned so far for their abysmal animation and unfunny humor. I'm hoping CN will cancel Hole in the Wall and the the bad flash-animated cartoons they currently have and replace them with much better cartoons.

Un-frickin-touchable.

CN Real has been defunct for about 2 years now.

Aint that the truth.

Question: if CN really picked up Scaredy Squirrel, Sidekick, and Almost Naked Animals to keep the license for the Total Drama series, .... how come the next season has been so late? If came out immediately after World Tour, would CN not air these other comedies?

Cartoon Network is definitely getting better, primarily thanks to Adventure Time and Young Justice, but not quite there yet. Having canceled Sym Bionic Titan, which is among the best shows they've ever done, set it back a million years.

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Gumball, Poorly animated? No way, Jose.

And I'm getting sick and tired of the Flash=Bad idea. Most Flash cartoons are just as fluid (if not more) than other shows (compare MLP or Gumball to Regular Show or Adventure Time. I'm not saying the latter two are bad, but their animation is only so-so.)