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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#1: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:32:32 AM

Believe it or not its not been a recent thing but its more publicized.Presidents,senators,and politcians by any other names have been caught in scandals that ruin their image or make them great in people's eyes.I pick the formers more.

Jauce Since: Oct, 2010
#2: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:37:33 AM

..and ah, what are we supposed to be discussing?

Men want sex. Some men live for sex. Some men will abuse their positions to get sex.

Anything else to add?

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#3: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:41:40 AM

i just want to discuss mainly the history of politics and the illiciness of sex.Mainly because in America if you get caught with your pants down then you are done or at least shamed for a very long time.

Jauce Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:47:17 AM

Oh.. well, not necessarily. Bill Clinton had his scandal, didn't affect his reputation all that much. In some circles he's even admired for it. Personally, I don't care about what politicians do in their private lives, so long as they are honest and competent at their job.

germi91 Public Servant from Spain Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#5: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:47:45 AM

A certain Italian prime minister comes to mind...

edited 16th Sep '11 7:48:30 AM by germi91

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#6: Sep 16th 2011 at 7:50:16 AM

And he lied under oath about it.I don't know a lot of people conservative or liberal at least want their canidates to at least but true to their spouses because it would make them look like donkies if they did cheat.I think values canidates will get hit hard by sex scandals espically because if they called out on hypocrysy.Also are we spreading the wrong message that cheating on your wife=being a pimp.

edited 16th Sep '11 8:03:21 AM by joyflower

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#7: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:37:36 AM

Men People want sex. Some men people live for sex. Some men people will abuse their positions to get sex.

FTFY.

edited 16th Sep '11 8:37:45 AM by Karalora

Stuff what I do.
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#8: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:40:54 AM

I'm pretty sure no one thinks cheating on your wife = being a pimp. That just... doesn't sound logical. I don't think you know what a pimp is.

Again, not much to discuss. Sex scandals are bad - more news at 11.

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#9: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:46:42 AM

I mean its funny because in the past sex scandals were not as publicized as their were today in America.Although I think one president did get flak for having an illegitimate child.I remember that John Kennedy was famous for his affairs which were revealed mostly after he died.Boy,Catholic boys are the ones you got to keep an eye on.

whaleofyournightmare Decemberist from contemplation Since: Jul, 2011
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#10: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:48:13 AM

I think its the hyprocrisy thats the worse thing. Here, the Tories say they promote family values and sleep around.

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#11: Sep 16th 2011 at 8:51:22 AM

Even if they are not values politicians I still wouldn't approve of them cheating on their spouses.Plus if they used tax payer money or any other kind of money to keep their affairs a secret then that won't sit well with a lot of people.

Then again Americans are more religious than Europe and think its a big time sin to be cheating on your wife and then being a hypocrite about promoting values or lying about it.

edited 16th Sep '11 8:53:29 AM by joyflower

PiccoloNo92 Since: Apr, 2010
#12: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:00:09 AM

[up][up] Well I guess Mr Major just couldn't resist a good 'Currie' [lol]

I do say I find it quite funny when I hear of these homophobic politicians who make such a fuss about it in public only to find that they've been picking up rent boys on Craigslist tongue I don't really care what politicians get up to in their private time. They're people like everyone else but they're entitled to a sex life and whether or not they cheat shouldn't be seen as more or less worse than when a civilian does it. However, it does push a few buttons of mine when they're hypocritical about it.

edited 16th Sep '11 9:01:26 AM by PiccoloNo92

Ailedhoo Heroic Comedic Sociopath from an unknown location Since: Aug, 2011
#13: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:02:07 AM

Personally the bed life of a person is only their buisness. It is not the darn buisness of the media who could be reporting news on the policies as oppose of making let another sex scandal. Where is the right to privacy?

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#14: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:03:39 AM

I think I do feel sorry for their wives who I bet feel betrayed everytime those pinheads for husbands decide to get jiggy with some younger women.Another reason why I will never marry a politician.tongue

Ailedhoo Heroic Comedic Sociopath from an unknown location Since: Aug, 2011
#15: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:04:32 AM

[up]And you feel sorry for the husbands whose wifes cheated on them? Double Standards must be destroyed if humanity is to evolve.

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joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#16: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:06:14 AM

Hey,I put both standards on men and women for cheating.But the problem is that a lot of politicians tend to be guys and things happen.I am saying that politcians should at least have that deceny not to sleep around behind their spouses backs.

PiccoloNo92 Since: Apr, 2010
#17: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:08:19 AM

[up][up][up] Female politicians are guilty of it too. Iris Robinson a Northern Irish politician and wife of Northern Ireland's First Minister Peter Robinson was found to of had an affair with a young lover. I know you mean nothing by it but you should just be careful with how you phrase things.

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edited 16th Sep '11 9:10:27 AM by PiccoloNo92

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#18: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:12:00 AM

I put standards on both female and male politcians to not cheat and did no one read my other post.Besides its mostly because the media focuses on the guy politcians having affairs.I think it has to do with the trope "all guys are perverts' the media has going on.

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#19: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:28:32 AM

My position is basically "Who gives a flying fish about their sex lives?" Their fidelity is their own business, I just want them to do their job and do it well. Not my right to force my morality on them, they have their own stuff to work out.

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DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#20: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:36:17 AM

Agreed. I won't hold it against a politician if he/she has an affair or what have you. Only time I hold it against them is when the have an affair while also trying to stand for so-called 'traditional family values' or whatever the euphemism is these days. That's hypocrisy, and that does affect my view of how capable they are of holding office and doing their job.

joyflower Since: Dec, 1969
#21: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:38:17 AM

I think I would hold both values and non-values canidates on the same standards but I think it would be more harsher for the values canidates.

DarkConfidant Since: Aug, 2011
#22: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:41:37 AM

I agree; the only difference is that I don't believe there are higher moral standards that politicians should be held to relative to other people.

Merlo *hrrrrrk* from the masochist chamber Since: Oct, 2009
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#23: Sep 16th 2011 at 9:41:47 AM

I think an argument could be made that it's a reflection of their personal integrity. I.e., if they lie about one thing, it could mean that they're willing to lie about other things.

I don't feel strongly about this issue though. I'm not going to put much stock in speculation until hard evidence of other unpleasantness comes up.

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Beholderess from Moscow Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Sep 16th 2011 at 11:04:35 AM

To be honest, this one can't see why politician's personal life should have an impact on whether they are fit for their job. Unless they campaign for "family values", of course.

If we disagree, that much, at least, we have in common
Pykrete NOT THE BEES from Viridian Forest Since: Sep, 2009
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#25: Sep 16th 2011 at 11:12:29 AM

I think an argument could be made that it's a reflection of their personal integrity. I.e., if they lie about one thing, it could mean that they're willing to lie about other things.

That's how I look at it anyway. Keeping a very simple promise to one person whom you're presumably very personally involved with is a hell of a lot easier than keeping a very complex one to an entire nation of anonymous schmucks. If they can't even figure out the former...


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