Uniforms are Ridiculous

True enough: A codified dress code at least prevents managers from giving you Hell about inappropriate clothing at a whim.

At any rate, I'm a sysadmin. We don't deal with the public face-to-face, so we don't have a dress code. I get to work on combat boots, cargo pants and a T-shirt.

edited 8th Sep '11 2:37:17 PM by SavageHeathen

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.

So you're basically the ninjas in the background.

I wish more security companies would put effort into their dress code. It's everything from a sham police officer outfit to ugly blue drab urban BDU's.

Some of the armed security in different European and Asian countries take this into account, and dress with style.

Corporate dress codes are automatically, evil. School uniforms are a lesser evil. Military uniform depends on which side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3JKcExmQlA

Liberty! Equality! Fraternity!

To be honest, I kind of like the old SS uniforms. They had style.

It was designed by Hugo Boss, what do you expect?

OFC it does rather set you out as the bad guy if "I have a skull on my hat" is one of the main points of your uniform.

In my case I enjoy wearing my third best suit and trousers to work, I enjoy looking reasonably smart in them, and it seems to make the old people who inevitably end up flocking through my work place more comfortable than if I turned up looking as I usually do.

If I ever become a dictator, regardless of alignment, my soldiers would have a skull motif. And I'll definitely have Chaos Marines, whatever that ends up meaning in Real Life (probably something like assault teams who's job is to utterly destroy enemy morale by focusing all their tactics on psychological intimidation, fucking up their logistics, sabotage, false flag operations...: for example instead of poisoning a river that's vital to the enemies' stronghold, I'lll just have them throw a non-toxic colouring substance that'll turn the waters black, or red... you know, the sort of stuff that'd work in assymetric warfare against an ignorant, untrained, cowardly enemy).

Would those old people be uncomfortable with a sweater, a shirt, trainers, and jeans?

edited 8th Sep '11 4:58:30 PM by JesusSaves

An action is not virtuous merely because it is unpleasant to do.

@Josef

'They've got skulls on them.'
'Are we the baddies?'

By the powers invested in me by tabloid-reading imbeciles, I pronounce you guilty of paedophilia!

Your grasp of propaganda needs work.

And yes, because I am a young looking guy in a mansion that is older than America as a seperate nation. You try turning up in something that isn't pristine or at the very least resonably smart and you'll look like a douche.

Thread Hop,

Uniforms are neither good nor bad. It all depends on how they look on their own merits.

That said, school uniforms are evil incarnate...

I am now known as Flyboy.

I liked my school uniform. I'd rather people didn't judge me based on what I was wearing without even talking to me - and trust me, that's what some teenage girls would have done.

Plus, I could just roll out of bed and get dressed with a minimum of mental effort. Only one choice: dress or skirt and blouse.

And I think uniforms always looked good in choir; if you're going to be singing and dancing as a unit, it really looks snappy if you're all dressed the same. Movements stand out, when you turn around or lift your arm as a group it looks cool. Even when we were in 'costume' there was some sort of unifying theme, like 'denim pants and a bright t-shirt'.

Be not afraid...

what's wrong with wearing uniforms? especially school uniforms, they help you to tell who the students are and who the teachers are. besides you feel like part of a community when you wear uniforms. just my opinion

You don't need a uniform for that. I wore jeans/shorts and t-shirts to school every single day, and I didn't need anyone to tell me to; I wore what felt comfortable.

edited 9th Sep '11 5:09:38 AM by RavenWilder

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko

not to mention it can also stop bullying in school over what people wear

but seriously, i think either way is fine. some people here over react to having to wear uniforms but i can also understand where they are coming from even though i prefer uniforms.

The clothes you wear are a pretty low form of self-expression. Do some real art if you feel that you must show everyone how important your individuality is. If you still can't just get over the fact that you can't wear exactly what you want to wear, that is, you can't just stop whining and wear your uniform, how about you go to a school/job that doesn't require one? It's your choice.

edited 9th Sep '11 6:23:02 AM by ekuseruekuseru

Er, if you're addressing me, that's exactly what I do, in fact. Luckily I'm pretty lax: I can deal with standards, as long as I'm not asked to wear a suit specifically. It's the symbol, I think.

An action is not virtuous merely because it is unpleasant to do.

I was addressing anyone who thinks that they have some kind of right to wear whatever they want even when they've willingly entered a contract (or have been entered into a contract by their legal guardians, in the case of schools) stipulating that they are surrendering that right.

And also anyone who thinks that expressing themselves through their clothes is important while also saying that they shouldn't be judged by employers based on what they are wearing.

And probably more, but you get the drift. Basically, anyone calling for uniforms/dress-codes to be banned. So if that's you, then yeah, but if you were honest about "that's exactly what I do" then no, no issue.

Also, symbols only have the power we give them. As has been demonstrated in this thread, others view the suit as a positive symbol.

edited 9th Sep '11 10:46:51 AM by ekuseruekuseru

It seems to be rather silly to quit a paying job over a uniform issue. And schooling? I'd imagine it would be up to the parents as well, as they would have to do all the paperwork to switch schools and all that, yes?

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.

Well, it's not so much quitting as not entering in the first place. And to me it's not a matter of "wanting to express myself", except for what I don't 'want'' to express (that is, what the suits symbolize): it's a matter of being comfortable. To make a caricature of what suits represent to me, think a combination of Corrupt Corporate Executive, particularly American Psycho, and The Creep. the sum of which the character of Barney Stintson actually sums up pretty well. I know it's not fair nor rational to all those suit-wearers over the world, but...

edited 9th Sep '11 10:56:26 AM by JesusSaves

An action is not virtuous merely because it is unpleasant to do.

The personification of what suits are supposed to represent is Barney Stintson? Fuck, now suits have became even cooler than before for me! Thanks, man!

The sin of silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.

Here comes the Misaimed Fandom.

edited 9th Sep '11 12:39:51 PM by JesusSaves

An action is not virtuous merely because it is unpleasant to do.

You don't really get much of a choice in school, really: students generally cater to the whims of their parents, who may well have a different opinion then their child. Furthermore, if you've spent several years at a school (and a uniform policy was just introduced), you won't want to be transferring.

And jobs are hard to come by in the current jobs market, so it's not your choice.

Then you quit crying about a uniform if jobs are so hard to find. 90% of jobs, at least, have some sort of uniform. You can't just cry "well jobs are hard to get" and expect people to cater to you.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior