I don't know about her being fake/exploitative, but I do know she's utterly banal in every conceivable way.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
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"Fake" is a word hipsters use.
She is not however, something I would ever willingly listen to, and I like Jasper da Dolphin.
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Anything I have to say about her would have to be redacted so as not sully the impression that I am a mentally healthy individual.
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt." - Some guy with a snazzy hat.
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Really? How so? I have to admit the video is not top quality at all, one horrible example is the lip syncing. Just over all the video makes no scence, I guess that's one reason why some Music critics sought her for being fake. You can obviously see that she is trying to show that "Swagger" hip hop life style.
What gets me more though is how did MTV thought of her as one of the best upcoming artist. If you ask me she couldn't rap to save her life.
I don't really get what's the big deal about her.
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She appeals to the Swag Generation without being as controversial as Tyler and Odd Future (or if you're contrarian, Hopsin), and so forth are.
edited 6th Sep '11 10:31:52 PM by BlixtySlycat
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What the fuck is this Swag Generation and why does it exist?
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That'd be a generic term for the fanbases of cult hip-hop acts that are distinct both from the mainstream and from the traditional "underground". The term actually comes from Cali Swagg District, IIRC.
To elucidate further, the fanbases that I usually see put under this banner are:
- Tyler, the Creator
- and by extension, Odd Future and all of Wolf Gang
- OF affiliates like Casey Veggies and Jack Mushroom
- Hopsin as rivals to the above, and his affiliates.
- Whiz Khalifa, however the fuck you spell it
- Mac Miller
- Pretty much any rap act built around a dance, Soulja Boy, the aforementioned Cali Swagg District, etc.
- Kreayshawn
- Stylistic Suck rappers like Li'l B and Jasper da Dolphin
edited 6th Sep '11 10:36:50 PM by BlixtySlycat
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Are those the miscreants who recorded "Teach Me How to Dougie"?
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Yes, but do be respectful, one of them died pretty recently.
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I know. That doesn't erase their making of the song or that they've dubbed this horrible fad.
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt." - Some guy with a snazzy hat.
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Stay classy.
For the record, Cali Swagg District didn't invent the term, it was invented to describe them and their fans. It was also used around the same time to describe Hotstylez ("Lookin' Boy") and a couple other groups.
edited 6th Sep '11 10:39:45 PM by BlixtySlycat
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Alright. But can I still voice my displeasure with the Swag Generation as I see fit? Y'know, without wishing armageddon upon everyone involved.
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If you want to, sure.
I'm fond of the whole movement, myself. Even if I only like about a quarter of the involved acts (I'm sorry, Whiz Khalifa, but when there are dozens of rapovers of your song on Youtube and they are all better than yours, you suck). The alternative is overly poppy "alt" rap like B.o.B. and Kid Cudi who were set up as some sort of return to form and then promptly released an album exactly like every other rap album at the time. If nothing else, the SG movement is honest in that it doesn't try to be anything but what it is.
I like to think of it as an alternative to the alternative, and at a time when the mainstream is unironic glam rap, and when the underground has—with few exceptions—crawled so far up its own ass it could blow itself, that is absolutely necessary whether I personally like the acts in question or not.
edited 6th Sep '11 10:47:20 PM by BlixtySlycat
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I'd much rather have the overly poppy alt-rappers, because they can at least get some talented producers and guests to unsuck their music. I can level criticism at The Adventures of Bobby Ray and Man on the Moon for being made by subpar emcees but at least the music was catchy and played with genres a bit. Yes, the Swag Generation doesn't try to elevate itself beyond its status as lobotomized excuses for rappers working with painfully obvious samples from FL Studio, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a bunch of lobotomized excuses for rappers working with painfully obvious samples from FL Studio.
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If you want to think that, you can go right ahead, since I don't think there is anything I can do to change your mind.
A term that is less widespread, but less loaded and I think more accurate is "New Alt Rap", I like it better since it includes a lot of other scenes too, and guys like Redcloud and the whole Tribal Hip-Hop movement, who are so far out on left field even most underground fans don't know who he is (being a former Christian rapper will do that to your reputation), it's also more accurate in respects to people like Mac Miller who aren't really swag anything.
Frankly; I think you can pretty easily compare the Swag Generation to Punk in rock and roll. I'm not the first one to make the comparison and I doubt I'll be the last, because it is very very valid.
edited 6th Sep '11 10:56:57 PM by BlixtySlycat
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Yeah, I made this comparison too* . It seems pretty obvious, when you think about it.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
As an outsider to this scene thing, I only can say that "Gucci Gucci" is terrible and that I didn't know hipster females are now trying to make themselves look as unappealing as possible.
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(*Watches*)
Imma need some Brain Bleach or TG to get this outa my brain.
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I've got to hear more than one song from Kreayshawn before I make a judgment on her. She might come out with some more decent stuff later.
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This would depend largely on what band/s we're talking about. I'll support its quality with say, the Minutemen, but not the Germs.
Likewise, while I will never say what he's doing isn't valid, you're not going to find me calling Soulja Boy good any time soon.
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I generally like Swag Generation artists. Not all of them, but a good chunk of them. I love Lil B and Soulja Boy, Odd Future are great even though they're getting a ton of backlash right now, and I kinda like the Kreayshawn song. I definitely think it's kind of hip-hop's answer to punk music.
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Gucci Gucci is horrendous. However, I'm not opposed to the movement Kreayshawn is apparently part of; I have a lot of friends who are into it, and I like what I've heard of Odd Future even if I think they're quite overhyped.
edited 7th Sep '11 2:41:18 PM by AsTheAnointed
Because I choose to.
Personally, I'd have preferred it if the L.A. glitch-hop/bass music scene would have become the new bleeding edge of hip-hop, but I suppose this is good too.
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hip-hop's inevitable future:
Ok so everyone should have heard of Kreayshawn by now, if you haven't seen her You Tube video already than it's her being nominated for the MTV music awards for her song and video "gucci gucci" but lost to Tyler, the creator. All i'm asking is what do you guys think about her, her image? Her rapping? Her video?
While her video is getting alot of attention and she got assigned to a major record deal, she's also getting the heat on her music and more importantly (apparently) her image as being fake and exploiting the hip hop culture.
Again what do you guys think?
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